Website looked great the last time I saw it. Is it just me or anyone else having errors downloading this website?

I wasn't able to load this website whenever I look at it. How comes it say paying?

Not many posts here in the thread. This is what happens when things work smoothly and reliably.
"Good things come in small packages "
I've found the video review for Orbistrends:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFKbZMKjFDI
This is a well paying program, I am expecting only the best in the future.

Alex (moderator) :

Otrogold :

Hello everyone,
I have decided to give OrbisTrend a good try now.
I've looked at their trading reports for past time (it appears to be not available on the website if not logged in, by the way) and wanted to ask if anyone could confirm that those are actual rates which users here have been earning?
Thank you in advance.

Yes, those are actual rates

Alex, your OrbisTrends banners are still showing Promotional plan for the first one here, but they have changed it to Scalper STIFF some time ago.

Oilstructure is currently way overrated IMHO, I wouldn't invest at this time and definitely not after HYIP.com alert.

bolo :

OrbisTrends is another great project.

7/29/2010 21:06 42086116 U8443739 (OrbisTrends) +
Paid again.

Thanks admin.

Same here:
1298971 07/29/10 02:10 Withdraw from Account Balance U4XXXXXX Liberty Reserve -190.98 0.00
Good time for this program to become being noticed. See it getting to the top on many monitors.

hyipmentor :

Can somebody tell if orbistrends.com profit days calculation include weekends? I have invested in the trials and it is already 30 days but my initial investment is not yet available

Those are all business days. My first investment already matured and I am now in the second plan.
You should contact Orbistrends support to confirm, they are fast and attentive, which you don't see that often these days.

This has been a relatively low profile HYIP, but it is paying nicely on my test spend.

Found this review of OrbisTrends today:

REVIEW OF ORBISTRENDS
Friday, 2 July, 2010 at 14:15 GMT

Martin Eden, HYIPNews.com

Clvr :

I am in this one with np so far :D

Me too actually for that matter.
P.S. Loving your Avatar's avatar Clvr ;)

Oh yeah, this one seem to have it all.
Very impressed with support by the way- prompt, complete and very polite replies.
I was a bit not clear at first about posting of the earnings, but got it later (in addition to support's help) that there is basically one day delay at all times (earnings are posted for previous day).
Best of luck to all fellow investors here.

I've seen many complaints from users about forced changes in plan expiration and inability to request principal, even for their fee.
Anybody tried?

Commun :

Paying indeed.

Like energizer bunny.

Ok, count me in

"EZ-Profit.Net offers you the perfect investment solution you've ever longed for all this while, in a straightforward and reliable business pattern. "

Sincerely yours, Jane. :

Today our programmers have fixed the glitch happened on March 15th, when several investors have not received there yields.
By the moment all the due yields are accrued and all the due payments completed precisely.
Sorry for inconvenience.

In March not only Hare go mad sometimes, but servers as well, and it takes some time for them to turn back :)

It is very rare, but a real pleasure to see fixes going on while the website is fully loading and working.
Some others prefer taking site offline forever and then write a book worth of bulsh*t updates, describing all the issues (which we don't need to know about) and how hard they are working on them...

Thanks Jane for your support here and the "funny spirit". You are quite a cookie ;o)

Sorry about others not posting on fixed problems.
We are the crowd which likes to complain twice daily and we don't bother de-complain once satisfied.
We also usually don't post much when getting paid (unless we are a cheap monitor) and we ALL post at once if there are few minutes payout delays. So we are tough cookies too. Posting this, just so you know better the crowd you are dealing with.

Best

Sincerely yours, Jane. :

Today our programmers have fixed the glitch happened on March 15th, when several investors have not received there yields.
By the moment all the due yields are accrued and all the due payments completed precisely.
Sorry for inconvenience.

In March not only Hare go mad sometimes, but servers as well, and it takes some time for them to turn back :)

It is very rare, but a real pleasure to see fixes going on while the website is fully loading and working.
Some others prefer taking site offline forever and then write a book worth of bulsh*t updates, describing all the issues (which we don't need to know about) and how hard they are working on them...

Thanks Jane for your support here and the "funny spirit". You are quite a cookie ;o)

Sorry about others not posting on fixed problems.
We are the crowd which likes to complain twice daily and we don't bother de-complain once satisfied.
We also usually don't post much when getting paid (unless we are a cheap monitor) and we ALL post at once if there are few minutes payout delays. So we are tough cookies too.

Best

Going into 3rd month of investing here. Works like a charm so far.

piggypack :

For the past week, if I log on via Firefox, the site kicks me out after 30 seconds. However, if I log on via IE, I can cruise the site no problem. Now as of today, they have a new captcha and I can access the site via Firefox without a problem. Perhaps a Goldpoll DDoS issue they were resolving. Gonna invest and update.

This is weird, this whole page is full of negativity, yet you are planning to invest?

Of the most recent programs that showed up, this one seem to stand out quite a bit.
What do you guys and gals think?

singhavn :

I can't understand how people are still posting good votes for genius funds.Look at the recent votes

Those are not "good votes" those are hopes.
I've had the 504 error for the past few days.

This one is paying instantly so far.

I wouldn't generalize like that. Genius is not the first, not the only one and certainly not the last one around.
Industry is not going anywhere either, it is here to stay and evolve.
In my humble opinion, relatively short life span of HYIPs is in full proportion to yields they offer.
What I am trying to say is that these HYIPS are practically a "fast forward" of ANY OTHER investment opportunity out there and this includes those that eventually are turning out to be illegal (Madoff case is just one of MANY examples).
Just compare HYIPs to any legitimate (supposedly), super slow burning markets out there and I think you should see my point. History shows that whether it is DOW, NASDAQ, a set of company stocks, or some "private" Investment Fund, they are ALL prone to "nose diving" as well as to all sorts of abuses.
The biggest problem with these super slow burners is that it takes years and years before the problems come to light, while it is a lot more clear with HYIPs.

Everest :

If Genius goes, u can forget about this industry unless you want to gamble. Lessons learned: there is never a security in this type of industry and enter at your own risk, don't be greedy and get out at right time. Genius was the best managed n it got hit pre-maturely, in my opinion.... Concentrate on making your own money, trade your own money, take control of your own money and dont let anyone manage it for ya. Hey, its not the end of the world, at least not yet, there are better things we can continue to do.

I decided to try this one out.

That definitely makes sense.
Thank you Alex

time&chance :

they are very good at coming up with reasons to be off...lol reminds me of AIM Trust. But both are very reliable and stable programs

Saw your post among recent on the home page, decided to comment.
Sure we can give them a day or two break. When this happens, I always think about banks, where in a year we are getting same as here in a day.
I am not in thekapital, but in AIM too.

Alex, I have a question.
I did not give BestEthanol even the second look, I passed, but admin is saying HYIP.COM did not refer a single person.
Shall we assume that HYIP.COM is good in referring in general?
I don't doubt it and when you are saying "the community of investors showed no significant interest" this is very important information. I can probably add a few more to such list, BUT can you back your statements up by demonstrating that there are HYIPs on HYIP.COM for which investors did "show interest"?

I don't believe this is panic, GeniusFunds cannot possibly satisfy all regulatory requirements extended by every government, from every corner of the planet.
Something like this should be expected to come from bigger countries, so what?
What is really annoying is that the only reason regulation authorities are mentioning in moves like that, are high returns.
It is even worse in US - the whole Madoff case was triggered by his 10% yearly in yield reports, nothing else. Otherwise, his "fund" would have go on for a couple of generations.

I donated $20 using text messaging.
I mean, I sent two messages, but haven't seen the phone bill yet. I assume there will be two by $10 charges, which is what I understood how this works.
Anyone else has experience with texting donations?

Interesting rescue story came out today.
A man was pulled out alive today and he was in relatively good health condition. At a time of earthquake 11 days ago he was in the food store and he was a worker there. He survived eating cookies and drinking beer, which is what he was lucky being able to reach. He knew there were other people trapped nearby, but he said "I stop hearing them some two days ago".

Mentioned this topic from HYIP.com main page and I am surprised that someone would be investing so much in this HYIP.
The template looks exactly like some older closed HYIP (don't recall the name), so this is obviously a lowest grade second hand shop.
The "after one day plan" is for small investments only, because this is a low profile HYIP, so admin can afford small payouts only.

Alex, thank you for alerting and please keep up the good job.
It became a lot easier to make choices of HYIPs to invest with, since all these removals have started. I've been playing HYIPs for a while and so far, anything removed was not on my personal list of HYIPs, so it is nice to see confirmation of sort.

I was able to access website directly and requested a withdrawal. Payment was received instantly this time ;)
Looks like PirexFund has enabled instant withdrawals feature.
I am a happier then ever camper here at PirexFund.
Thanks admin for hard work and for getting website back to full speed.

PG, you know, I am really very hesitant to be accessing websites where you need to enter login information via external websites.

I am with you, three digits with me too :o)
Gee, sometimes you just look at one hyip and there is something right about it.
This was my feeling here.

Elite,
Might not work in any HYIP. It may be applicable in Genius, but it is important to get a feeling on how much others are investing to "go with the flow".
Paid here is usually.

I received spam for this HYIP.
:o(

I haven't been using compounding here yet, but am considering. Could anyone confirm if the compounding percent can be changed whenever user wishes to change it, or is it going to stay for the whole investment period once set?

Ikariux :

Hi

can anyone from old forum users confirm that this project is worth trying?...

Posts from skjdgwh, d1k1ngZ and ruwgwjhuwtqwerw stuff is zero value for me :)...

Thanks

I hear you on questionable posts. I do think HYIP.COM is one of the "cleanest" forums out there, but it is free to join, so you never know about authenticity of every post.
I'd say wait with any investments now, at least till closer to the end of the next week, when all HYIPs are back (and IF they are back) to normal payout schedule.

Why Not, how is the atmosphere on the GNI forum? I am very curious if big investors getting paid as usually

GNI is on the spot for a long time, but it never looked attracting to me, mostly because of it's closeness.
Alex (Moderator) published important observation recently, but now, I am honestly very disappointed in him for stopping half way and basically going into shades on this.

The latest update posted on MNO makes me wonder why GNI admin is so pre-occupied with all these technical issues instead of updating on actual fund performance for instance. After all, this is supposedly an arbitrage backed HYIP and this subject is what investors probably want to know about, besides being paid as promised.

The GNI update posted on money-news-online is quoted below and as one can see it is a rather big page of beating about the bushes and mumbling about technical issues, about dealing with delays (in an awkward way), about database problems, support requests build up et.c.

I have been long enough on this arena and in my experience, everything described as holding back problems could be fixed easily by one person within a day or less.
Close the website, take a day old backup, enter what is missing manually, cancel all support tickets (request to post new ones if something is not fixed), explain what has been done and get back on track next day.
Instead, there are all these mess-ups now building up becoming the main subject of this HYIP.

"Seasons Greetings to all Friends of GNI:
It's hard to believe we are nine days away from Christmas, ten days from Boxing Day; with the New Year just around the corner. While it's nice to reflect on all of our accomplishments (and challenges), there will be plenty of time for this before we close the books on 2009.
The purpose of this Newsletter Update is business; all non-sense to be put aside for the moment.
1. Delayed Posting of Deposits. As evidenced by the voluminous amounts of Email and Support Requests received, most customers realize roughly 85% of all Payment Processor (PP) to E-Wallet deposits, have not posted. Between the 14th of December until earlier yesterday (December 16th), there have been some intermittent technical issues impacting the downstream users, warranting our recommendation that users loose the extra layer of encryption (https) down to (http) for a few hours at any one time. In so doing, we lost our API feature which would post your deposits to your wallets etc. Therefore, all of these deposits must be posted manually, the process of which is currently underway.
We truly apologize for the inconvenience and couple days of lost revenue... we'e working on these as a priority.
2. Support Functions. Many of you, rightly so, are not sure who is responsible for what tasks associated with Customer Support. It is our desire to have all support cross-trained such that staff can take a day off from time to time without any significant reduction in service to the customer base. While this may be true in a perfect world, the realities are such that we need to have a manageable direction so ensure a smooth flow of communication and information exchange.
In addition, we are making some adjustments in staffing responsibilities to better serve the project as well as the needs of all persons, principals and clients alike. Therefore, effective immediately, Lim and Rumiko will be on the front lines handling Support Requests. Debbie will be handling all Email and PP Change Requests. In addition, (and at the time of this writing, she does not know this yet), she will be responsible for missing payments, account adjustments and other associated matters affecting your account. Given the complexities associated with this additional responsibilities, please refrain from contacting her in this regard as this is a transitory process and her responsibilities at the "Change" desk are critical and cannot be mitigated. Todd will oversee the team and, in Robert's absence, answer on his behalf those issues he can, is able and most importantly, is authorized to.
3. Reporting an Issue. There is a right way and wrong way to report a problem. The way to report an issue, whether it's account specific, or Program specific, needs to be thought through carefully BEFORE the problem is reported. Some things to consider are:
a. The severity of the problem (a missing or late interest payment not withstanding)
b. Should this problem be misunderstood, or if it is correctly understood, does the reporting have the potential to cause panic, necessarily or unnecessarily (and this is not a request to stymie the flow of information...
c. Does the reporting of the situation have the potential to violate our Privacy Rules or the Terms & Conditions you agreed to abide by when signing up for GNI?
These are by no means the exhaustive list you need to consider. BEFORE contacting support, it is always a good idea to got to our forum http://www.gniforum.com (be sure you have already signed up) to see if there is anything about your issue that is consistent with current subjects of discussion.
Always use common sense and discretion keeping in mind, anything said on the internet becomes a permanent entry. If there is nothing on the forum that relates to your issue, proceed to your back office and complete a Support Request.
If you are unable to login, go to your email where you have the option of contacting either Rumiko at GoldnuggetinvestCS2@gmail.com or Lim at GoldnuggetinvestCS4@gmail.com.
Support's focus will be on the Support Desk, NOT the emails. Please keep this in mind.
If you are not getting satisfaction and have made multiple attempts to reach the Support Desk via Ticket and Email, or if this is an emergency situation, you may contact Todd at GoldnuggetinvestCS@gmail.com.
PLEASE DO NOT contact Robert unless you have made prior arrangements with him to do so.
If this procedure is not adhered to, it disrupts our workflow... Truly, your cooperation is greatly appreciated.
4. Email Notifications of Interest Payments. Within 24 hours of the publishing of this Update, the script will begin generating, then forwarding, an email each time GNI generates an Interest Payment. What this means is the following: If you have 50 Rollover Plans in effect at three dollars a piece, you will be receiving 50 emails each day when the script makes the payment to you. If you are overwhelmed, it is strongly suggested you begin to consolidate those plans into a Weekly Fixed or a Rollover Deposit of higher value.
This is being done on a trial basis, the determinant being the impact on the server and its capacity to produce the voluminous amounts of emails. The benefits of this should be obvious, (enhanced security, payment verification, tracking purposes and so forth). We hope you will appreciate this tool in managing your GNI account.
As we get closer to the end of December, we can't emphasize enough the importance of charitable giving. We have an opportunity to make a difference, lets take advantage of this.
Wishing you all the very best, Robert and your GNI Support Team".

Hopefully GNI will survive this

So far, PanaMoney is paying very well.
Hoping for good things to continue after Christmas, into the 2010.

papaw :

Hello All, For me Liberty Reserve is a pain in the A$$! For Genius Funds I used SolidTrustPay which I think is one of the easiest processors to use. I have used them numerous times and it is easy to fund using ACH. Strict Pay is also pretty easy to use. Just my thoughts. Papaw

I'm using SP as well, but for LR exchanges, in case anyone needs to outexchange, another reliable, listed on LR exchanger is eCardOne and they have zero fees promotion running.

Thank you for the lead

Tent :

I'm impressed with their "Global Numbers Page".
Some statistics are displayed there in real time.
Check it out in the member's area.
Anybody else could share their experience with iMoneyReserve?

I've signed up to check this out, but didn't invest because I thought this is just another "wanna be" Charis Johnson of the infamous 12DailyPro of which I happened to be a long term member.

Got this email from iMoneyreserve just now and after the previous one on "deleted cheaters", this now becomes a very close imitation of real 12DailyPro events of the past (admin must have been a member too).

The huge difference though is that iMoneyReserve makes those events in a very FF (Fast Forward) mode. What had happened with 12dp during some 8 months, is happening here in some 12 days :).

Just give it up already lady (if you are)

Best wishes to all
====================

Dear xxxxx

Thank you for your cooperation.
Kind regards,
___________________
Cassie Johnson

I actually cannot access the website too for the past few days, but I do see payouts being reported

This is cool and funny.
I want to follow it, just to see how are they doing
Rich Alien, there you have it :)

Paying indeed.

Not too much activity here, but I'd like to mention that Verifield is a long term paying HYIP and I am getting paid regularly.

Kudos to Alex (HYIP.COM). Another tough case with positive outcome.
Happy to be a long term HYIP.COM member.
daz, congrats on solving the issue

Heh, so much for an alleged "exchanger business" :(
From other blog:
Urgent update from ShiftMoney: The admin asked me to announce on my blog that all deposits to SolidTrustPay are disabled for the time being. The reason will be announced by the admin tomorrow. All deposits made via SolidTrustPay today (October, 26th) have already been refunded in full to STP members. I hope it019s not another problem with STP this time!

Let's do this.
I've check the system with few dollars so far in the stable 30 days plan, but I can't make up my mind for the plan for the main investment.

What do we all expect from this HYIP in terms of its lifespan?

Alex (moderator) :

Hello everyone,

As it was done in the past for other programs, HYIP.COM is planning to conduct regular COMMUNITY DRIVEN interviews with selected top programs.
Among others, OilMongers is one of them, but everyone is invited to nominate other programs by posting in the corresponding discussion threads.

Just as we did this before, I would like now to invite everyone to post questions, for which you would like to have specific answers, directly from IncoForex administration.
If and when sufficient amount of questions is posted, we will compile the list and request an INTERVIEW from OilMongers administartor, or any other company executive, entitled to provide such an interview.

Just to remind, PLEASE, DO NOT hesitate to post overlapping (similar) questions, because this will help us greatly to determine which questions are more important than others.

Also, please keep in mind that there is NO such thing as "stupid questions", when it comes to YOUR money!!!
SO, POST ANYTHING YOU FEEL YOU NEED AN ANSWER FOR.

As usual, we would deeply appreciate your posts and comments regarding this "interview initiative" in general.

OilMongers has this information:
"We are group of Independent Petroleum Marketers, Crude and Stock Traders, team of financial professionals and experts in Internet technology"

What exactly are they doiung, trading relevant stocks, or packing, shipping and reselling the actual gasoline barrels?

About the interview, I've seen the answers to common questions and those were in fact well answered and commented.
So, I really hope that this next interview of HYIP.com (as well as interviews for other programs, which are also in progress) would be something additional of the essence to read.

Anyway, I mentioned the recent update on the web site mentioning this:
"We are glad to inform you that we have developed new trading strategy which has been going through testing period for over serveral months now and shows stable positive result. We plan to add this system to our trading platform during next three months after full cycle of testings."

I assume this must be some positive development, but I would like to know how exactly this new strategy will affect the investors?

Added AIM to my portfolio (...so to speak ;o) too.
Hoping for the better for a long time to come.

time&chance :

Hope all is well here with Inco Forex. Question, is there anyone here who has invested $1000 or more?? Just asking. I want to invest here but if so, I want to make it a good one.

For what it is worth, I am pretty much following HYIP.COM on the amounts deposited. Might add somewhat more, for "premium" HYIPs and I skip some that look too immature (website wise, which is pretty much all we can judge by...). Works relatively well.

IncoForex by all criteria on my list, fits in BTW.

Why Not? :

for just the fact that they are from Fullerton on Staminus Comunication Server, puts me a little bit hurry, so I pass.

I am confused about what are exactly your thoughts.
Staminus is the DDOS protected servers provider with good reputation. So, that is a positive point, not sure what is yours.

"Seamless" very well might turn out to be "Profitable" IMHO.
I'm in too.

Glad I joined IncoForex. Comparatively speaking, things look very good here for a long time to come.
Getting paid here regularly, will probably set to compound.

singhavn,

As far as I know, there are no problems with Genius payouts or AlertPay. AP does have a minimum of $1, but they also charge 25 cents (+ %) for receiving payments. Perhaps, that dollar must be a minimum for funds AFTER fees are deducted.

Anyway, I don't think that it is good idea for you to be requesting payouts in the amounts close to $1, because if you keep doing that you will have very significant loss at the end, only because of those 25cents fee. Imagine, if you withdraw $100 by $1, you will loose 25% and end up with $75 instead. So, if you decided to work with AlertPay, better collect lumb summ and THEN withdraw.

Regards

TH :

Somewhat confusing "plans", but this one's paying without fail and withdrawals are instant! Keep it up, admin.

I think plans make sense once one gets the idea how it is working

Commun :

I have a very good feeling about this program here.
Just waiting for some funds to arrive to PerfectMoney via wire transfer.

So far so excellent and it visible that this program takes the shape it promises to.

Genius has been great for me all the time I am a member.

Received payment as usual.

Good service here, good performance.
Paid regularly

"Houston, We've Got a Problem"
Payouts are overdue.

Thanks,

I'm up for "cracking" some.

When the website was online last time, there was a note about when they supposedly will come back.
Can anyone recall the date? I believe this was sometime in August.

Deutschland_Hyip :

Layout looks like from a guy who just learns webdesign, I don't give this cashsubmarine any cent :) but it's up to you! It;s a normal hyip! Just looks very low class

Exactly my thoughts.
Admin's approach here is plain ridiculous. So much money is WASTED on advertisements all over the Internet, yet they couldn't spend some $60 on simplest website template. Yeah, sure, give me the "It is not what important" pitch...
Annoying and VERY NASTY - considering the theme this idiots took

Just an opinion, I am not an investor here.

How about creating the list with name plans and lifetime?
But true, these are plain gambling

I have a very good feeling about this program here.
Just waiting for some funds to arrive to PerfectMoney via wire transfer.

time&chance :

whats the investment term here??

"...Maturity periods are from 30 to 270 business days..." Probably 30 days is for the lowest investment bracket

Glad to see StableInterest advancing here on HYIP.COM
I am a member too.
Alex, what's the deal with the rating increase?

Probably worth considering for a run.
Just looking at what plans offered vs. successful time online and it looks good.

Have Infinitiva bookmarked for a while already.
Planning to deposit here, once get paid by Novalex.

Expecting the second (profit) payout soon.

Receiving my payouts timely (in a "keep the change manner").
Very satisfied with investment results.
With all up and downs for HYIPs, I really think the chance to get good long term yields is definitely there, after all.
Quite challenging, but doable.

Would be nice to see historical earnings.
Since the % is variable, just wanted to know where the average is.
Anyone has a record of it? It should visible from your payouts.
Regards

Commun :

Seems well supported. I'm in moderately.

Worked like a charm.
Celebs did good

ikumaran, this program does not have an account area (which actually maybe considered as safety feature) and they don't send confirmatory emails.
Your receipt is your transaction record in your own payment processor account.
When your plan matures, Hannah Montana will send you your earnings automatically.

Hope this helps,

Regards

Update:
"We are happy to announce a new investment product brought to you by Genius Investments. The High-Yield Deposit Account or Genius HYDA offers a yield of up to 25% without a fixed investment term. This means that you are able to withdraw your capital, interest or both at any time. This product effectively replaces the Genus CD account, which was discontinued a short while ago.
We at Genius are committed to providing you with the highest quality investment services. The new Genius HYDA is aimed at those investors who do not wish to commit their capital for long periods. It provides interest yields comparable to those paid by our investment funds and at the same time offers unprecedented flexibility.
To find out more, please visit our web site at GeniusFunds. You may also download a full-color PDF brochure from:
http://promo.geniusfunds.com/geniusfunds_world_high_yield_deposit_account.pdf
If you have any questions about either Genius HYDA or any other investment options offered by Genius Investments, do not hesitate to contact me at any time"

time&chance :

I thought that was Hannah Montana.......lol

You are not alone Time, ...... LOL
There is also Justin Timberlake, on the banners, don't you think?
Oh... whatever :o) ...as long as as these celebs pay, we are all good.
Regards

As long as payouts are coming, we are good.

Got principal back for one of my deposits here.
Best of luck to all.

Seems well supported. I'm in moderately.

Serega :

no profit today and no any information about it.

They don't credit on weekends. Probably, this was the reason.
Receiving my payouts regularly.

Happysmart, website is working well for me, but they did sent a couple of notices about ddos attacks, a few days back and as far as I know, they have been online since.

I have a question to those who reinvested here.
I have my original deposit shown as available for withdrawal (investment term ended), but I'd like to either keep it running, or reinvest, if I have to.
So, the question is, will my original deposit continue generating daily profits, or do I need to re-invest for that to happen?
I guess, I'll see on the account myself in a day if earnings will keep coming, but I thought, I'd ask.

From the website (not quite sure what exactly to make out of it):

Interim activity moratorium

5) We would be grateful to all our investors for cooperation who voluntary give us power to disclose their data and required details about all incomes received with the assistance of our company, so that we provide the files to the Secret Service, Postal Service and SEC. Please be informed that you're required to provide the authorization to pay all taxes that are liable therein and confirm the taxes paid already.
For this please e-mail us your account holder authorization in writing signed.

I guess, the only possibility left (if at all), is that reservation (if made) is not in the name of Stoic. I have very serious doubts about this, but in theory, this is possible and then someone, or some signs, may be there to meet and direct relevant participants (or not).

PG :

Hi guys,
Does it say anywhere which documents you need to show for real time verification at the congress asuming there is one or would it be the same notarized copies?Notarized copies would seem exessive if you show originals I think. I can not find anything on the website I can just see myself presenting passport,proof of residence etc and then they will come up with something we haven not thought of.

Don't think that for "in person" verification one would need the notarized copies, doesn't make much sense. But, even if they would want to have something official on file, I'm sure you can just use some local notary, right there.

Did those who called, happen to ask if there are ANY events booked for the time frame we know about, at all?
Just a thought that booking may not be in the name of Stoic, which could make sense...., in theory

george10,

You don't have a day job? I see you "live" in this thread.
Checked some of the links you posted. Nothing new, same old general stuff consistent with HYIP definition on WIKI.

Rustysouth :

Well all I would like to say is that even though Stoic has dropped the ball here lately dont completely count them out. Then sent out an email saying they have problems with bank. I hope everything works out for everybody. Most of the investors who have been with Stoic from the beginning dont come on here much anymore, well let me rephrase that: dont post on here much but do read what is going on. I have never had a problem getting paid at all, just a little late sometimes but not often. I also have not invested 10,000 dollars at 100% compounding. I have compounded at a 100% but not with that huge amount of money. I have always made it a habit to get my money out that I have invested, reep some benefit and then compound at 100%. I have been with Stoic for over a year now. But as a small investor you are right it doesnt count to you but it does count to me. The best thing is people can judge what they are going to do with there money, and at this point many newcomers will not invest with so much kaos in all of these forums. Due your due diligence and if it works out great and if it doesnt that is the hyip world-gamble. If the Congress goes as it is expected then where we all be at. I hope it does because as I said I have some accounts with 100% compounding maturing in July and August. I have rambled enough here good luck to everybody. Peace Out
Rusty

Rusty, papalodell, glad to see your guys posts, as I'm too mostly watching here, while recieving my timely payouts.
Too much rubbish posts lately and because payouts continue to most, Stoic gets extra credit.

glo, can it be that there was something you misunderstood about the plans originally and now want to change them?
Given the time frame this program is monitored here on HYIP.com and is paying to its members, I think administrator here is making real investments of user's money, therefore may not be able to change the plans whenever user asks them to.
Just a thought.

P.S. I am a long term member here and am being paid per terms.

Matthew2C :

Respectfully, have any of you ever argued with a brick wall? If you have once you wouldn't do it again, if your doing it now stop. There are people on this forum that represent those brick walls; so please don't waste your time or ours disputing them. Please do however; continue to post what you find out to be factual and related to your experience with the Stoic.

No one, no matter how ignorantly blissful has any right on this forum to tell you to stop doing that; and when they try and tell you about the magical place they live where the leprechauns dance and the unicorns whiny right outside their bedroom window--simply don't respond and ignore them.

Those of us on this forum that actually care about other investors and not just ourselves do want to know how the Stoic is treating the whole, being that if its happened to you it could happen to us no matter how special we think we are!!!

Thanks M2C

PS. Just my two cents, if you don't like it don't respond. Being that I am not wasting my time arguing with anyone; however if you have something constructive & most importantly objective to say--by all means.

I would second that.
Various accusations, bad wishes, guess based predictions toward Stoic from some, have been pouring in for months now, yet, I do not personally experience any problems with my investments here and I see most are in the same situation.
It would be just my guess, but my impression is that some few people, perhaps simply violated the terms, therefore are now under scrutiny, but they are choosing to treat this program just as another HYIP, therefore keep posting negatively.
I don't know what to say about the congress and I am personally not interested attending, but I can easily see that the exact outline about how this event will proceed (for a central company being an offshore one) be not available in advance.

From "for what it is worth" department

I think, this one used to have different plans, with lower yield. You are probably right happysmart, this will one will probably "pop" any day now.

Complicated, but I guess it is worth it.

Put in some here. Looks like this one is picking up.

happysmart, yes they (payments) do (going smoothly).
I see that my post is a month delayed reply, but you probably know how it works when things indeed go smoothly.
You just don't see much "activity" on forums when everyone is happy.
Best of luck to the rest of AvexTrade members.

Have been paid regularly by LakeWoodTrade since NOVEMBER last year (see my post above, such dated).
Have only good impression, couldn't find a good reason to bother support, but did received timely reply when came up with somewhat relevant question.
I think, the early withdrawal option mentioned here earlier (with the 20% fee) is just great to those who are concerned. With this option, one could simply set the target of total earnings and get in for self determined number of days. That is, for example, after only 20 paydays, one would already have a profit of 4% (or more, depending on amount invested), if the early withdrawal fee of 20% is factored in.

offshoresailing, agree with Tucker's concern, but I don't think they would go into troubles of establishing Belize company, with the US connection being the "weak link". My best guess is that the US connection there, is most likely some agency in business of providing the "presence" to global businesses. I know for sure, there is a bunch of such agencies out there.

Played a bit.
Nicely done :)
Does system fee comes only when money are withdrawn, or on per game basis?

Looking good,
Joined with test spend, got this on the watch list.

Got paid here as well.
Youmilex is standing strong so far.

malteen :

Hi

I've invested $250 at 50% compounding in the ultimate plan and then I've worked the maths out (I know, I did this the wrong way round!!!)

By my reckoning I'll come out with $237.35 - thats a loss of $12.62 as the principle (including the other 50%) is not returned

Is my maths wrong or can someone enlighten me.

Many thanks.

That would be wrong malteen. Just checked the calculator.
$237.35 is what you will be able to withdraw by the time, your initial deposit expires, but your principal balance at that time will be $487.34, in which compounded deposits are added to your principal. So, your investment will not end and you will continue receiving payouts.
I would agree with others on that this plan is nicely designed feature, speaking of which, same goes for the whole program.
Great job admin.

Advisory :

I have plenty of referrals with huge investments there, actually more than 10k investments. They have no autocompounding but you can reinvest there by means of combining of deposits. Read more at their website.

Yes, exactly. I don't know why people are making so much fuss about whether program has compounding built in or not.
If you want to compound, just make re-deposit, that's all.
I think we are all compounding, that is, get payment from one hyip, take some money out and re-deposit the rest into different hyip, or into the same one.

Regards

Alex, I've seen your post elsewhere about W-MTFUND on that there are no issues about it's status.
I don't care about Money-News, I think users are smart enough to see the problem themselves, but I'd rather see W-MTFUND back here on HYIP.COM sooner then later.
Did you hear from admin there?

These Yoman and DEATHWATCH people are just insane.
NO, you DO NOT have "pure intentions", it is way obvious and don't pretend.
Demanding a face to face meeting with executive? Are you out of your mind?
Go try asking for the same from Mr. Merrill Lynch. You'll get laughed at if at all mentioned.
Why is it different here?
The obvious fair answers are most likely NO, if you get them at all here.

Look you, dudes,
Get real and just have a strength to GET OVER whatever your (other) problems are, and move on.
You GOT TO live your life, ok? Just calmly talk to yourselves and start reasoning. Stop being freaking assh***s, please.

RE: ....communicate to all users that the security of their funds is important not only to us at UR Invest, but to them too.

This is funny.
I'm telling you, UR Invest is really something.
I remember earlier, they were running around, looking for some reckless investor to get an info about where to pay him, or something in that line.
Then, they would NOT take money from someone else and refund.
Now, they are about to engage into "public education" on how to secure the accounts...
;o)

TH :

Great news! Problem solved by admin (Thank you!). Account was credited this morning with compensation for the delay (+10%).

It wasn't my intention to start a panic (I'm usually one of the first to defend a program when there is a problem) - but after 48hrs, I got concerned. I appreciate your professional response and look forward to continuing my investments with you.

Thank you for sharing TH.
Heh, I almost feel like "I told you so" ;o).
But, seriously, I'm glad your issue was resolved in a best way (if that's an issue to start with).

I think the compounding plan is nice addition here. I was doing reinvests manually, but obviously that is less efficient.

P.S. Thank you for visiting this forum admin and best wishes with those support requests.

WinWin, it wasn't much, but yes, it it s never a "win-win" situation type of investments around here.
Please, spend at least a couple of months getting to know this area better (on HYIP.COM in particular), before jumping in with anything bigger than that again.
By the way, I wouldn't say that GMT2U was a bad pick. Unfortunately, you were just out of luck here.
Regards.
P.S. Use your "lottery money", if at all.

DEATHWATCH :

papaw,

I don't believe in luck, nor do I wish. This program is unsustainable at this stage. You should not be worried about me sir...what you should be worried about is the state of your "wonderful" program. Your opinion is your opinion and yours alone. Please don't attempt to speak for thousands of people who are "unlucky" as you put it.

Oh, opinions, opinions... Are you done expressing yours Mr. DeathWish?
If so, please make a GOOD effort and try to not repeat yourself thousand times.

Well, money-news is clearly not something one should use for "investment decisions" on the first place, that's a no brainier, and I don't think StableProfit was even on the list of (at least) hyip.com users per earlier warning, but considering what Paul has had published about hyip.com, it looks like he is out of topics for his reviews, because, in all fairness, that's just bulls***.

I did enjoyed reading some of the Money-News so far, but can't help it with not feeling easy now, as I caught myself to be questioning pretty much everything Paul has to say.

True, hyip.com does have some issues, but fairly speaking, to avoid them all, is probably an impossible task to achieve by anybody.
Taken together, if HYIPs are considered for investments at all, what happens here on hyip.com (alone with just a handful of other resources), is positively a "must read" and a useful investment guide.

Got my payout of $84 today too, without problems.

Jobi :

If they are gone then I think they fooled people by calling off their 2nd plan "160% after 30days" that people will invest in that plan after that news. They hurried people for further and quick investments in that plan before the expiry. And I think people invested in that plan. And the introduction of a new plan is always a red flag.
May be I'm wrong. Anyways, I had a good time with them. Hope for the best.

I think you are overreacting.
I've seen REAL red flags on plans changes, but it is ALWAYS relates to various bonuses and/or huge INCREASE in offered payout rates, both serving to "bite and switch off" .
URInvest's plan changes were overall in the other direction. As time goes on, they are canceling and/or limiting HIGHER paying plans leaving the lower yielding ones, which is consistent with what they are claiming those higher paying plans were there for, aka program promotion.
As far as I know and importantly, they are also NOT changing plans for existent deposits and even though those are not available for new investments, they still yield profits per original plan's offer.

TH,
My feeling is that your issue will get sorted out, but please post when/if it does, it would be appreciated.

Getting payments whenever requested.
I am in quite sizable profit here. Very satisfied with program stability, comparatively speaking.

Got the email quoted below today.
URINVEST: Refund incident report
Sounds totally fair to me, especially the fact that user got full refund.
What do people think?

Dear URINVEST.NET members,

Paul Sartori
URINVEST.NET Program Manager

mendez :

Greetings FiveSInvestment

As I can see you have an great experience with stoic-capital. Can you tell me more about that corporation? Because I have an bad experience with tradelite.

Thank you

mendez, I think, you pretty much answered yourself in your next post.
Good one.
Stoic works well for me here, compounding.
Best

Bernard L. Madoff story is really something. Read it in full.
You never know where to turn with investments, as things either fell apart officially (like the recession), or turn out to be fraudulent.
What comes to mind is one thing, "If you want to have things done right, do it yourself", and I guess what one considers to be a savings, should stay in the insured bank, or CDs, not in any other fund.
P.S. URINVEST is paying

Got GMT2U a good shot yesterday.
Got paid today

Goes well, consistent payouts.
Satisfied

Got a sign up person from my blog and received 5% commissions :o)

Dear xxxx

Your Opportunity
http://urinvest.net

Things go very well here. Great support admin!
Seems URINVEST is pretty much have now taken the place alongside with other top programs.
Glad I'm here from the very beginning.

Off to turkey cooking
Happy THANKSGIVING!!!
=================

PanaMoney have taken a place in our 2009 portfolio.
Have a look everyone.
Happy Thanksgiving !!!

guess who is feeling stupid here? ... :o(

Thank you HYIP.COM for the nice lead (NOT)

What kind of card is it Calvin?
Congrats on your payout !!!
Same here.

bummer.
Basically, pretty much ALL of the money in the system today, PLUS extra 44% of it, will be due, ALL at once (on the same day), some 30 days from now.

RE: "...This rate of return, is the minimum rate, which our program is committed to deliver, but per fund's performance in the future, at times, it can be INCREASED FURTHER in a variable manner..."

Could administrator elaborate a little more on the above part. What exactly "increased in a variable manner" means?

Overall, this program is working just great for me.

If this is about DailyProfitPond.com, it is one of the autosurfs, which are not monitored here.
I mentioned that this MegaLido thing has been "bad experience" here as well.
Perhaps, posting on public forums (if admin is indeed not replying after reasonable amount of time), might get his attention.

I'm in and here is (sort of) a strategy, if the program keeps it's advertisement level:
This strategy will start generating about a third of your total running deposit WEEKLY, after three weeks of "active" waiting time.
Depending on the program status (...how well it is advertised later on), if good, one should make new deposits every week, always into 3 weeks plan.

1. Split the deposit you want to put in, into 3 parts and make 3 deposits into all three plans on day one.
By the way, note that the longest plan here, is practically the same, as the shortest one for TradeLite, (21 days v.s. 20 days respectively).
2. After the first payout is received, reload it's principal into 3 weeks plan. You now have two deposits yielding 63% each (this actually will be less than a third of your total principal running).
3. After the second payout is received, reload it's principal (again) into the "three weeks" plan. You now have all three parts of your original deposit yielding 63% weekly each.
4. After the third payout is received, keep that 63% and reload that principal again and again (weekly) into the "three weeks" plan.

Actually, as I type this message, I realize that my "about a third" can be calculated precisely, because everything is "dividable by tree" here :o) (this is funny!!!)

If you do split your investment in three parts, the first week's earning that you keep, is 12% of your "third", which is exactly 4% of your total principal (in other words, a third of investment, will yield a third of shown for each plan's profit).
Accordingly, after two weeks, you will retain another 13% (39% divided by 3 = 13%).
Finally, after the third's week payment, you will retain another 23% (63% divided by 3 = 23%).

So, after only three weeks, using the above strategy, you will ALREADY retain a total of 53% of your original deposit (13% + 17% + 23%).
If you continue depositing principal of every received payout (a third of total running), you will start getting 23%, EVERY WEEK thereafter till the end.

Alternative, more cautious strategy, would be to make weekly deposits ONLY into the three weeks plan. Then, after the first 21 days, you will start getting the same 23% weekly as above.

Sorry, if I'm getting carried away a bit, but as you can see, those are really "quite" numbers... :o)

Good luck to all.

Well in profit already with Urinvest. Strategically, I am doing partial manual compounding of earnings.
The competitive advantages of Urinvest, from investor's point of view, are professional support and relatively short term monetary commitment.

Commun :

NoRiskInvestment stands out from the crowd in my opinion.
Got the deposit going here in 100 days without compounding plan.

... and not regretting a bit :)

Good performance for me here, but I haven't seen them on the list recently. How comes they are now listed?

Well, the answers to my questions were overall satisfactory, considering trade secrets and such.
I've been staring at those real time trades for a while and must say, that is very impressive.

Thank you admin.
I think that the exchange type of activity is a very clever idea. Just what those who can't decide about which payment processor to use need.
It should be convenient for you as well.

I see the website ok now, but brief interruptions happened before, so I wouldn't worry too much when it happens.

I mentioned them too actually. Everything what serious investors would expect from the fund seems to be in place here.
Any other opinions?

Admin does a very good job here.
While looking for more interviews, came across this one (could admin confirm if this was one of the official interviews, as I don't see mentioning of it on the urinvest.net website):

1. Please tell us the name of your site please.

Ultimate Ratio Investments LLC is currently offering it's investment services via website that can be found at URINVEST.NET

2. Please tell us your name?

My name is Paul Sartori, I am financial advisor and a partner of Ultimate Ratio Investments LLC. I am representing and am responsible for our online financial venture URINVEST

3. Will you explain how you got into the investment world? And how long you have been doing this and when your site came online.?

As partnership, we have been engaged in investments activity for about 20 years. Originally we invested in the funds managed by others, but as time went by and we learned how to identify our own investment opportunities, we start to invest directly. We launched URINVEST only a couple of months ago, as a way to grow company's capital and sharing the profits with investors. We are truly happy that we took this step, as URINVEST has been nothing less, but a complete success and recognition.

4. What do you trade in?

We invest in very diverse markets. We do not limit ourselves to any specific area and our investment products can be anything from some business website development assistance, through broker assisted commodities trading, all the way up to Real Estate investments. In most cases, we prefer fast money turnaround to minimize the risks. Such deals are usually performed by simply putting buyers and sellers together and facilitating their transactions for nearly instantly paid to us fees.

5. How do you keep a stable site with all the scams out there what can you do to prevent your site from going under?

We do have a number of security features in place including ones that ensure continuous website availability, however, the nature of our fund performance is in actual investments, that we do for our users. In other words, even if the website is not available for some time, it will have no effect on program performance whatsoever.

6. How do you feel about your members?

We put highest value in customer's satisfaction. Every member entrusting us her or his money is our recognition asset, regardless of the amount.

7. Will you tell us where you are located?(no physical Address) just a state or country
Vventure, with working capital like ours can only be effectively operated from within the physical office locations to allow constant communications within each fund department. We have several actual offices, in different countries, however, for personal security of our staff, we cannot provide the actual office addresses. Recently, we did registered URInvest officially in an offshore jurisdiction and information about this can be made available to our program users, who will decide to make significant monetary contributions and/or wishes to become local company representative.

8. Do you plan to offer any debit card services in the future or any other type of service?

Absolutely, depending on program member's country of residence, we will be offering locally issued type of stored value debit cards via our direct financial partners and various third party agencies on per contract basis. The setup of this service is near completion and should be available to our members within just a couple of weeks. As of today, we can already offer earnings withdrawals to select users via ACH transfer, which as nearly as convenient as debit cards withdrawals.

9. When someone invests with yoursite what can you tell that member to reasure their funds are safe?

We feel that our venture has exceptionally solid rational behind it's investment strategies and that offered by our program plans are sustainable for practically indefinite amount of time.

10. Do you plan to make any additions or changes to plans you offer?

Due to great program popularity, we recently had to decrease the maximum deposit amounts in our promotional plan, however, while possibility exists, we have no plans to change our main daily earnings plan, in the nearest future.

11.Is there anything you would like to say to anyone reading this interview?

Taken together with the fact that our program is 100% owned by its partners, who have substantial personal capital invested in the firm's strategies, we are confident that our users will find participation in URInvest very rewarding for the long time ahead of us all.

Didn't mention any downtime here as well. Getting paid regularly.
Just to metion, one of the ways to access websites is via proxy websites. Do the google, and you will find plenty of those.
Best of luck to all.

I'm one of the happy campers here.
Getting instant withdrawals to libertyreserve and keep cycling the investment as well.

URINVEST Support :

Dear Matt,

I have to post here in attempt to communicate with you. You deposited rather significant amount of money with us, but you are quite careless with it.
We are trying to reach you via all emails we could find, but you are not replying, or following up.
If possible, please do not use that email with the "_" in it. Google mail seem to be modifying it to the "-" character, so mail is not deliverable.
Please choose new email, or create brand new one, then write from it to our support and provide your URINVEST user name. We will reply with instructions on how to reset your account.

Thanks,
Paul

P.S. Never thought we would be running after investors to take care of their own accounts.

LOL indeed.
Right on admin !!!

Thanks for payouts too.

Well, LR seems to be most popular these days. The only annoying thing, is that exchange fees are too high for LR out exchange. Don't these exchangers have any competition? All exchangers I checked, can exchange LR, but why is the rate so high? Anyone knows reliable exchanger for LR -> wire, for some 2% fee? I am looking to withdraw some LR profits.

I am also wondering, since LR is NOT taking any wires or whatever from actual system users, do ANY of the exchangers have direct exchange with LR?

PerfectMoney seems better with all that.

richsoon,

STP was created and owned by the old autosurf industry "dogs". It took off some time after the 12dailypro fiasco and today, these people are all mostly into supporting (and logically, running) various MLM programs, which usually sell overpriced worthless stuff. These head hunting pyramids, are a lot easier to mask as being legit and for program creators, they are quite lucrative.
For this reason, any other "Online Money Making Opportunity", comes as direct competitor for STP. Such competitors, obviously, include investment programs (where users don't need to waste their time promoting the "dog's c**p"), which they (STP) are more than happy to "squeeze" and rob.

All is IMHO and personal long term observations/conclusions.

I am NOT saying that it is not safe to use STP, I do think it is relative safe, but I would only use them for the exchange purposes, if at all.

If I'm in time to add question, here is another one:

Do they use any software for trend analysis and if so, which one?

In profit here, reinvesting in parts, will stay with URINVEST till they let me :o)
Very impressed by support (for a change)

Just to comment on the above post.
It would indeed make a lot more sense that (if at all), the exchange fee should be equal to that at a time of the deposit by users, not today. That is of course, if invested money where THEN taken out of e-gold for profit generation purpose (which is what suppose to happen).
Another point is, why not to inexchange other digital currencies TO e-gold for payouts to users, who invested with e-gold (to let THEM deal with whatever e-gold has introduced today within their system). Such exchange can actually be done for a huge profit.

NoRiskInvestment stands out from the crowd in my opinion.
Got the deposit going here in 100 days without compounding plan.

This is a clear long term winner here. Very solid.
I am not getting out of this program any time soon. Have several deposits continuously running for the past 4 months or so, way in profit.

Have been paid here, whenever requested.
Reinvesting some regularly too.

Good ones Ortogold, love the thinking.

Here is mine:

1. Can Panamony Forex market experts post their prediction for the EURO v.s. USD overall movement within one month time frame?
Simply quote the ratio at the time of reply and say what it is going to be one month down the road. Ideally, it should be the % in value change, but as minimum, is it going to be higher, or lower and with what probability. I think FOREX expert should be right with such prediction, when checked a month from now.

Receiving payouts when requested here. Like a clock, since a while now.

e-commercejournal.com is full of c**p in my opinion on several reported issues.

I see new life here..., if you know what I mean :o)

Just to report, I invested in daily plan, being paid regularly.
glo, I know you are on the monthly plan, when is your plan expiring?

glo,
I am in daily plan, requesting every now and and then, getting paid.

Ms. V :

RE Commun... Please don't refer to me asking for my deposit back as a ransom because I did make a $100 deposit and I can send you the response from perfectmoney if you want. No one in their right mind would want to blackmail someone over $100!!! In addition, the admin later admitted receiving my deposit!

Ms. V Sorry about ransom, it just came out like that automatically. I take it back.

Ms.V, do I read it correctly that you have an option to withdraw your money now?
Should the community start begging you to request those whithdrawals, for the sake of protecting our own investments?

Being paid regularly here.
Have a few referrals they are paid as well.

ereka :

Payment received, thank admin

Date: 2008-16-09 21:30:10
Batch: 5506***
From Account: U505****
Amount: $15,000.00
Memo: Withdrawal to rozalinda from Real-onlineforex.com

That's crazy,

I was paid here as well.
Thinking... always ;)

Monitored: 27 days

Were these high paying plans there all this time? Anyone knows?

After the struggle with the captcha pages, I'm getting an error instead of the website:

Not Found
The requested URL /index_2.php was not found on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

WOW, this is becoming interesting thread to read.
What concerns me though is if everyone else being paid here, because I've invested here too.
So far, I am getting paid and my inquires to support were answered and were satisfactory.
For what it is worth, I think admin has good points, but if I where him I'd probably just pay her the refund ransom, although she'd probably post that "negativity" anyway.

URINVEST Support :

Dear Commun,

Currently offered rate is an introductory one and it is approximately what our company can generate as whole.
We simply wanted to make our program more attractive and spread awareness about it for the next few months.
In addition, significant advertisement funds have been allocated for this campaign.

Hope this answers your question and welcome to Ultimate Ratio.

Thank you. I guess, this does it.
I'm in.

P.S. Does support person here has a name?

Nice to see support person, welcome.
Out of newly listed programs, I would probably seriously consider joining here, but I have a question about investment plans.
The ROI is very attractive, but quite high. Is such rate really something deliverable for long term?

Chris,

Today's news mentioning that traders do not like LibertyReserve because of the exchanger involvment.
They don't trust exchangers, or what?
My impression is that exchange fees are similar.

NeilKerry :

Dear Investors!

On Monday, September the 1-st, the Labour Day, you are welcome to see our labour achievements :) described in our latest News:

1) all the withdrawals are available via Liberty Reserve

2) withdrawals are available for e-Bullion investors again

See http://stoic-capital.com for more details.

Mr. Kerry,
e-billion.com still has their " four hours maintenance" note on the site, so it is not working. Or, do you mean that the e-bullion investors can now withdraw via other means?

FiveSInvestment :

So far I have completed one deposit here. After positive feedback everywhere I will invest more here.

Looks stable indeed.
No long term commitments, feels easy.

I myself am making a profit here :o)

Francie :

My uncle is making profit from this company.

I myself am making a profit here :o)

Freddy :

Hold on a minute here. The money I invested was sent from E-B to SAI.
E-B does not have my money. SAI got it from E-B. Is my interpretation of the process incorrect? Please note that SafeAtom made arrangment with Aftergold to pay me and other client in the same problem. I had the same situation with SafeAtom and they are paying. What is E-B not paying?
Email from E-Bullion
Mr. ---- -----------,

Your account (E------) at e-Bullion(R) has been updated from the following
payment:

Transaction ID: T-----------FR
Account To: E-------
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:53:15 (GMT)
Amount: USD$ 1490.00 of e-Currency USD
Transaction Type: Transfer Sent
New Balance for e-Currency USD: USD$ 0.26

Thank you for choosing e-Bullion(R)!

If you have any questions, please fee

Most likely, your interpretation is indeed incorrect.
Yes, you sent money to SAI, but they received it in THEIR e-bullion account, which they may, or may not have been in time to withdraw for trading.
Since, the whole e-bullion site got frozen, it doesn't matter whose account money got stuck in, yours or that of receiving party.

Depending on how big the money turn-around in the program is, they must have a good chunk of them in payment processor for payouts, all of which would get locked if payment processor goes down for one or another reason.

forgot good question:
Where does the name of the fund comes from? the Stoic. Anyone heard of STOIC Philosophy?
P.S. off to read the interview

I'm all in for the interview quest. Sorry didn't see the call for questions earlier.

Here I go:

1. When exactly was the company registered officially and why offshore?
2. Who are the people responsible for company management and can they be contacted by investors?
3. Are there any company earning reports available to view?
4. Offered yields are quite high, this means there is risk. Are there any risk management plans in place?
5. How big is the total managed capital in the company?

proof :

Alex why was this site not on for the period you stated above? I am just curious to know.

Because they closed and disappear, but now they reopened and it looks like they are not willing to deal with lost funds.
I created new account and contacted admin with request to pay my old investment here and was refused.
SCAM ALERT
HELP !!!

So, what, they just restarting like that, "forget the old investments"?
Are they planning to deal with debt?
I lost here actually.

According to this thread, while there are less than satisfactory support related issues, the payouts records go as far back as over 200 days, which in comparison to currently offered plans, is VERY, very impressive.
I know that current (short term) plans were not always there, but they ARE THERE for over a month now, which is about 10 (ten) full investment cycles.
So:
- Long operating time.
- Over a hundred of hyip.com users alone (per posted earlier by Alex screenshot), which must mean all are paid and there must be a lot more people participating in the program, who learned about it not via hyip.com.
- Just now posted by tucker matter of $500 worth is resolved (it wouldn't happen, if there were some immediate financial problems here).

Worth a shot?

Another positively minded, happy camper here.

How entertaining indeed, usefully entertaining, I must add.
I would definitely agree that the use of other websites as a source of information is a MUST for all of us, but I almost feel it is really worth bringing found elsewhere info, right in here. It's a lot cleaner here (no need to scroll through the junk posts) and the "All Mighty" does a good job not only in balancing the opinions on these forums, but in directly assisting individual users with their personal investments issues.
I only wish this forum would be more user friendly. Alex, let's face it, the tech side of the forum sucks (...oops, taking a chance here)
As far as Tradelite Finance goes, I personally, do have it in my (currently moderate) portfolio with moderate investment.

Yeap, seen the spoof emails. The email headers show some other domains and mail servers, not hyip.com
Actually, I often see emails marked as coming from well known sites like hyip.com, when they are clearly not. Those don't bother me really, as you can recognize the spam, just by looking at subject and then it is just a matter of removing them all in bulk, with one click of a button.
No worries Alex and thanks for warning.

FFG is doing great, there is no doubt, but I would really be careful with 4 digit deposits.

Ender Wiggins :

Sorry for the double post, and not that it matters ...but I also invested $15 in Angel Capital, $10 in Daytrade and $5 in FFG traders .
If anyone of you are interested, what happens. I can post results.

Also, being a newb, I do have a bunch of questions. Assuming you guys are not bots :D ....Thanks in advance

That's a good one (about the "bots"), but it is definitely a valid concern, as there ARE bots around.

By all means, this one must be a real deal. I've had a deposit here a while back, paid in full.
I think, it is time to get back in again.

It looks like HYIP.COM is underpaid here as well (according to days monitored, vs. profit).

glo :

I have a new avenue of thought for all of you to ponder over. Today is Wednesday a bit after 11am! I have been trying to bring up LR (Mins new source) since early Sunday and it will NOT LOAD! There is a possibility here that Min has discovered LR is not the answer to the EB problem. Ever since LR started many of us either find them totally down or impossible to access. Truthfully I do not think Min needs any additional problems right now and LR IS A DEFINITE LIABILITY!! ANYWAY who of us wants our $$ somewhere you cannot access??

e-gold went through it's ups and downs exactly the same way as LR, a while ago. That LR now has dealt with it, could suggest that it is standing strong now.
Except of the time a couple of weeks back, when LR was not accessible for about 2 - 3 days, I haven't seen major problems.
In my opinion, LR is currently the best choice for HYIPs, but I wish there would be more than one.

Damn it,
But, it was good while it lasted, all the way.
Break time, for me

Where should they disclose?
If all this info is invalid, just say so and give contact details for the AUTHORITY to report to.
What I see here is the promotion of someone's blog.

Tribby, I can't believe you said that: "I don't consider 22k an excessive amount". That is enough to feed a village in Africa for about a year. This is extreme example, of course, but that amount is significant even for well paid executives in developed countries.
I don't think you are truthful and you sound way too soliciting for a regular investor.
Just an opinion.

Another good month here. It's a life saver.

I didn't get it about tradelooq, but anyway, it is almost 15th. What do we conclude if no changes after the 15th?

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I cherish the day I joined GoldenPurse

This one is worth a shot.
The buzz about this site is growing.

This takes way too long now. If they have the domain, I do not understand why wouldn't they put the site back up.

I posted earlier that I received the profits and principal after 150 days. I didn't compound and could withdraw daily. So, it is working, the way it suppose to.

Agree, democracy is good.
I just wish you'd be more consistent, because you are not even with this last comment.
I was giving my opinion too, but you decided to call me "names".

I am not a member of Unitel. Was just looking through the forum, saw your post, tried to map it, got it mapped, then asked if you walked by.
Here is what I got with the mapping:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Karlsplatz,+...,+Wien,+Austria

I guess, it takes time RogerWells,
I have seen posts elsewhere, that people had similar issues, but those that got resolved too.

I've heard e-gold blocks accounts of HYIP admins, it probably should mean that CobexTrade verified their e-gold account, because they do accept e-gold.
Be careful with exchangers, go to the e-gold website, they have the reliable ones listed. However, his also creates little problem: Fees of listed there exchangers are a lot higher than some reliable, but not listed.
I haven't seen good resource that would provide good comparison of exchangers, but I would recommend goldexchange.eu. They have good feedback on forums and one can contact admins via ICQ.

Confirming, I did.
I did not compound and could withdraw daily.

fazbuz :

In regards to your comment on the country of orgin where registering of a company that show from cayman Island or Dominica or Belize or any of the Caribbeans , are so much a shadow company, just a bit bribery you could register anything. Maybe you could expand ur narrow mind if look to another angle instead of looking into racial issue. BBC did a documentary few months about shadow companies at Caribbeans.

I took note that you previously, 1 month back posting good comments on A3union. pls do not solicit or persuade others to join your in vein course.

There's a possibility EMC maybe good another few months. Pls look for tale signs such program changes especially increase in funds. Now the minimum is 10 bucks for all programs.

fazbuz,
I don't know what exactly your mission on this forum is, but you are lying and offending ("narrow mind"? is offensive)
You a lying about my posts, because they are consistent. My comment on A3 thread that you are referring to, was negative. It says specifically that I've abandoned my A3 account, because of the clicking problem. Look at my profile, scroll down, see for yourself.
I also would like to state again, that you seem to be very prejudges about "other countries" and about EMC (just in case, for you: prejudges - judging beforehand without possessing adequate evidence)
There is nothing wrong with registration of international business on neutral territory. This is wise business decision. By the way, registration of the offshore company requires real personal documents from the country of residence. I am not saying that every single company registered offshore is "clean like a sky", but to say that they all are scams is wrong.
As far as "bribery" goes, this is human phenomenon, not country related, wake up dude.

Stop spreading false negativity

fazbuz :

This site & concept remind me of A3union. What a coincidence same as A3union's country of orgin and also the site was lunch after few days A3union when off line after so call strong DDOS attack.

Good luck guys-

What concept, the one of investing for profits? Why only A3 then and not OpenTrade, or another thousand of HYIPs?
Besides, A3 Union did not quit on one day, they were conducting a clicking drill for a good 2 - 3 months.

What is wrong with described there countries, are you a racist, or think you live in a better one?

Just don't start the HYIP, WHILE learning that FOREX thing, ok?
I am serious, actually. This is a good advise you are making.
Do the reading, think of several strategies, open up corresponding number of free virtual trading accounts and do the learning.
New trading idea -> new virtual trading account.
As time goes by and IF you are indeed successful with any of those strategies, one or more of your virtual accounts will be the solid proof of your trading abilities.
THEN, START THE HYIP, I'll join.

I think this program is worth considering for more serious investments, in comparison to straight up gambling in a lot higher yield programs (I don't mean to exclude those, because gambling may yield too) .
One of the things, that finally made a "go-go" for me, was the EMC Investments recent news article regarding their resolved issue with e-bullion.
E-bullion has a policy of conducting occasional verifications, as a way to minimize fraud, which must mean that EMC has now passed that verification process.
On top of that, there is a great deal of other company related legal documents and rather transparent description about where the investor's funds go, to generate profits.
I am in.

Cash Money :

Mr. Commun

Can I ask why you pulled out of minvestment ? I thought once you invest your money locked in for 150 days. How were you manage to do that or was your 150 days period over with?

I hope, you and I will not get in trouble for this from the "All Mighty" here, but yes, my 150 period was over. Sorry, I don't have the "proof of investment post" to confirm that, so feel free to take my words, as just words (same as from that "Elite Investor nycv" character). Time will tell.

(off topic note: don't take Christmas bonuses)

;)

Another good month for me.
Overall, this is one the the BEST HYIPs and, I should add, unique one, in my opinion. Users have 100% freedom over invested money.
You can compound as much as you want and withdraw as much as you want at any time. I tried that extensively, through the time and it wasn't just a few dollars.

Just don't get too greedy though, pick your level, get there, and stay while withdrawing daily profits.

(off topic note: I pulled out of minvestment)

vaughn :

quite odd that I am trying to look for their address here in Wein, 9 Karlsplatz 1010, but no luck...
Also their server is at Denmark while their office is at Wein, Austria...

Do you mean, you walked by the actual location? Expected a big neon sign?
I looked up the address on the map, it exists.
Server's location is irrelevant, because, like everything on the Internet, it's location is up to hosting company. For website hosting, one can pick server practically anywhere in the world.

I'm sorry for you, there is some MAJOR misconception going on in your mind.

"...Don't think HYIP is always risky..." - WHAT????????????
YES IT IS, dude !!!!!!!, ALWAYS !!!! ALL OF THEM !!!!

Once again, I told you what you need to do, to gain a bit of credibility:
POST YOUR INVESTMENTS IN REAL TIME. Simple enough, isn't it?

So nycv2,

"Ha-ha" you said ??????

I see you are enjoying laughing over others when they are loosing. Very "nice" personalty you got there my friend.

NO, let ME tell you who you are. You an Elite xxxxxx

You are also, (obviously) a stubborn IDIOT, who cannot read. I never said this "dog" will go on forever.

I personally, have not lost here either. Read my posts, see the dates and calculate. I just don't want to be bragging about it, knowing that others have lost.

lon :

What happened now to royal mr. commun?

Simple formula: Higher reward = Higher risk. I feel, this program is worth the risk and I now proved my point already. Now the are running our money!!!!!!!!!!!

Emmm, am I wrong having a feeling that there is some accusation toward me?
To formally answer, yes they are most likely gone with our money.
In my opinion, they've closed a lot sooner, then they could have, and that it is due to ddos attack.

Tree :

I requested withdrawal, but money did not come to my account yet. I thought this should be an autowithdrawal. Waiting now :)
user ID sertuka

How did it go?
I'm thinking about joining too

What a bummer,

It is not that they are gone, but the site loading, times out. Looks like DDoS to me.
The site said though, that they are protected by blockdos.net. Not sure what to make out of such "protection".
If I'm not mistaken, Open Trade also displayed little blockdos.net banner thingy and their site is not loading right now, as well.

Commun :

I did too. Kind of a low profile program and my feeling is there is a lot to come.
The feature I like a lot is that one can withdraw absolutely any amount at any time. If you don't withdraw, the next day's earnings are based on whole amount, so this is basically compounding.
One doesn't feel that invested money are locked.

Good two months for me here. Regret, that I pulled out, almost fully for about two weeks though . Now re-grew my principal (some more) and withdrawing about 5% a day of my original investment.
This program offers the most flexible compounding option ever offered by hyips. The compounded amount simply depends on the amount you withdraw.

Will be staying to the end here.

nycv2@yahoo.com (nycv@msn.com) :

Not a good investment guys. Becareful

Why is that? Read my first post, it says exactly what I'm doing and WHY!!!

Simple formula: Higher reward = Higher risk. I feel, this program is worth the risk and I now proved my point already.

And by the way, I'm sick of your negativity around here.
You posts, as well as oppinion worth a big zero, you hear me???
Show me your investment record IN REAL TIME please, I'll reconsider my opinion.
What I mean is, you need to post, when you invested (just like I did) and the time will help everyone see if you are in profit, or otherwise.

Just words -> I've read them all. GIVE ME FACTS, ok?

"...SHOW ME THE MONEY" :o)

Mission accomplished :o)
Profit at works now.

P.S. User ID Kyle

Got paid, what was due.

Just deposited here sizably :o)
I know the rate is aggressive, but my investment here is primarily is made into the visible strength of this site advertisement.
I bet, they know what they are doing!!! Alexa rank is incredibly very big, considering the lifetime of the program.
Traffic on the site is very diverse (visitors are coming from a lot of different sites). It means, this is not just some "hits pumping" advertisement.
If you don't like having all of your money stuck for months and months, I'd recommend to add Royal-Pay to your portfolio.
Strategy: Daily plan -> compound first day's earning in full -> from day 2, take half out -> Keep going this way till the end.
Note to smart ass HYIP players out there, about "keeping going": don't fool yourself thinking that getting in and out will get you anywhere. There is simply NOT enough programs with high % out there for in-and-outers.
Strategy of sticking with VERY WELL promoted sites, will reward a lot better , trust me, been there
Good luck,
ALL SAID IHMO

Looks reasonable, but I am a bit hesitant joining, as it is not monitored by hyip.com
Alex, what is your view on this one?

This scam-garden is listed as not paying, why is there still big banner shown on HYIP.COM?
I wouldn't put any money in here on the first place, was this a joke?

Anybody investing here?
I recommended this program to someone, but did not receive the referrals. Are their referral links working?
Anyone has the same problem?

Protrade Invest is one of the programs in my portfolio.
Looks like they had a little rough start from the beginning (site went offline for a couple of days), but their prompt comeback suggests they are here to stay.
Strong advertising campaign, professional site design, very reasonable offer on profits.
Recommending
poof, not used to be a topic starter, but here I go.

Joined this one, the earnings are on the higher end, but should be viable.

Never seen program like A3 with this "hard to withdraw" thing. This is amazing, some programmers even created scripts to help up with withdrawals.

I've given up clicking back and forth. I guess HYIP.COM did too.

...I'm not sure ref links are allowed here though.

Anyway, I'd rather stick with programs that are monitored by HYIP.COM
If one looks regularly at what is going on at HYIP.COM, some useful patterns can be seen, plus the staff here seems very professional. Why "discover wheels"
Best

I did too. Kind of a low profile program and my feeling is there is a lot to come.
The feature I like a lot is that one can withdraw absolutely any amount at any time. If you don't withdraw, the next day's earnings are based on whole amount, so this is basically compounding.
One doesn't feel that invested money are locked.

Yeah, they both have websites... :o)

Anyway, I kind of like this one.

Any other members around?

DateTradePros seems to be on the rise.
looks stable

kayman :

what`s the difference between manual and instant payment

:o) One is instant, another is manual....

Seriously, manual is when you request the withdrawal, it becomes pending, then admin approves it and pays you. Instant, is when you get money in your payment processor account the same moment as you requested the withdrawal (without pending phase). In other words, instant = automatic

Very happy camper here.
Getting paid whenever requested.

TomWiz :

Hi Admin (Michael),

I've been surfing around a few different forums and it seems that there is some confusion as to what is going on with OpenTrade.net and Etrade Club.

Recently, actually I think it was on 8/25, the news section of your site claimed that etradeclub.net was a scam/fraud site - can you please inform the community as to why you hold this view?

Thanks for your time, and I look forward to joining your program.

Tom.

In what context was that statement? can you post the link where was it?