Does anyone have any info on AG? They are back up, but I cant withdraw to them since there automatic payment processor is still down. Has anyone heard from them about this? I cant find any news posted on their site.

The site came up if you click on the advertisement on HYIP.com. It did not come up on my saved browser favorite list. They have paid me daily all week. ALex, why is this one listed as: PROBLEM?

Thanks,
Buchy

gopi_207 :

Dear Admin,

I would like to know that which business days you are counting?

This answer can solve most of the questions posted.

The running time is counting calendar days, not business days. Before this site had problems, I was paid twice in the 20 days plan: after 20 calendar days. It also says this on their website somewhere.

Buchy

Alex S. (moderator) :

garyghouri :

THIS LINK OF ALTER GOLD
http://www.ecommerce-journal.com/articles/altergold_is_a_scammer_of_the_epoch_or_it_s_a_new_fraud_machine

garyghouri,
I would suggest not take this too seriously, unless you are into "sensational tabloid stories" and "gossip columns" of all sorts, in general.
I read ECJ sometimes too, but it is obvious that they tend to grossly exaggerate some of the facts, or even add some that are hardly related.
It's the nature and a manner of this and other publications: to present some extreme controversial views to stir up the conversation, to attract readers, but yes, it is still "fun" to read articles and replies.

I agree with you there Alex. Just look at all of the hearsay and rumors that they posted when the EB mess surfaced. A bunch of rumors. The real facts came out when the court documents were released.

Buchy

I have sent about 6 emails to the contact@bahrain-capital.net email address already. They all went through without a failure notice. My batch details are below.

Date: 8/15/2008 15:13
Batch: 4632930
Sent To: U2413071
Amount: $210.00
Memo: 20 Day Investment

proof :

Hi Nycv that sound good and hope Chris can check same as AG for me is having technical problems that they are taking too long to solve and sure enough once Chris offer same I would most definately take up same.

from proof

Proof,

are you still having problems with AG?

Buchy

Hello admin

As I have previously posted on 9/5/08, I have not been paid for my 20 day plan which ended on 9/4/08. I deposited on 8/15. The details are below. I have sent several emails to your various emails that you have posted here. I do not understand why you are paying others and not me.

Date: 8/15/2008 15:13
Batch: 4632930
Sent To: U2413071
Amount: $210.00
Memo: 20 Day Investment

Thank you for your time
Buchy

contact@bahrain-capital.com :

Hello,
we dont make selective payments. Everybody gets paid. Investors from August may had delays as we had a offline database problem. But now everything is fixed and should be OK from 1st of Septemer.

contact@bahrain-capital.biz
or
contact@bahrain-capital.net

for questions!

Hello Admin,
Thanks for the update about the payment delays. I have sent several emails about my 20 day investment that was due yesterday. I have sent the info to several different emails that you have. I have posted the batch info below. Please process so I can reinvest.

Date: 8/15/2008 15:13
Batch: 4632930
Sent To: U2413071
Amount: $210.00
Memo: 20 Day Investment

Thanks,
Buchy

ivansa :

My test investment mature yesterday and I have not gotten paid on the 20 day plan deposited on August 12. I have sent two emails to admin yesterday, and I have not received any response yet.

Transaction details:
8/12/2008 16:04
Batch: 4546340
To: U2413071 (Bahrain Capital)
From: U....177 (IVANSA)
Amount: $150.00
Memo: 20 Day Investment

contact@bahrain-capital.com it didn019t work out.
Sent to contact@bahrain-capital.net . Does work it for you?

Rewards,
Ivansa

I sent email to the .com address and it failed. The .net email address did go through and they paid me last night as I mentioned above. My deposit was maid on 8/12/2008 as well. The may have had some database problems that day due to ddos or something. I have one maturing again in 2-3 days, so lets see if it is paid without having to send an email.

Buchy :

I have not gotten paid on the 20 day plan deposited on 8/12/08. see batch info below. It should have paid yesterday. So they are having problems making some payments. They also do not deposit automatically like elite money does. Each of their payments is done manually. I have sent an email today, and I await their response.

8/12/2008 00:15
Batch: 4528671 U2413071 (Bahrain Capital) 013
$70.00

Buchy

They have paid me for the 20 day plan. It was 2 days late, but they paid after I sent a single email last night. I have 2 other deposits in the 20 day plan as well.

You have received a payment to your account Uxxxxxx:

Date: 9/3/2008 15:02
Batch: 5340610
From Account: U2413071
Amount: $140.00
Memo: end of 20day plan

I hope this one continues. I do believe that negative comments are being posted on other sites as blackmail. I thank Alex and HYIP for not allowing the repeated negative posts on other review sites.

Buchy

I also agree that some people are trying to blackmail the site. If you look at other monitor sites, you can see repeated copies of the same comment from the same user saying they are a scam and not paying.

I have not gotten paid on the 20 day plan deposited on 8/12/08. see batch info below. It should have paid yesterday. So they are having problems making some payments. They also do not deposit automatically like elite money does. Each of their payments is done manually. I have sent an email today, and I await their response.

8/12/2008 00:15
Batch: 4528671 U2413071 (Bahrain Capital) 013
$70.00

Buchy

The site says that you can change your compounding rate. But, you can only increase it and not decrease it. I discussed this with them on their online chat and she said they were working on it. Soon we can go in and increase or decrease the compounding rate ourselves.

Nice online chat system. It was an immediate response to my question today.

NeilKerry :

Dear e-Bullion investors,

As we have informed in our News before - it was to take 10 business days. So, within the couple more days the conversion will become available.

That is not the problem of liquidity that cause this delay, but the time required for our programmers to update the scripts and data-base.

We apologize for inconvenience, please treat this with understanding.
All payments will be necessarily and precisely completed!
Watch for our hot News!

Do you mean that we will be able to withdraw E-bullion money to other currencies soon?

AGI-Club Support Team :

Dear AGI-Club Members,

here a update to our situation. After other HYIP admins tried to get us out of the market we are doing our best to get back online. The DDOS Problems were just solved than someone hacked into our database, changed the password and deleted most files. We try to reset the database. If this is not possible we will put a temporate site online with a contact form. Every member who made a deposit needs to send us his investment batch. We will pay back the proncipal. Please note that we will just pay back the principal at this status. We are working on a better securaty for our site. When we are back online you can make new investments.
Other hyip admins are trying hard to get us out as we are one of the few investments online with a real background. But the prncipal of our investors is safe. Once we are complete back online we will work as normal.

This is a message for our WesternUnion members.
If you are invested with western Union you will get your weekly payments from now every Monday! As there are 2 missing payments you will get also the missing payments.

Our BankWire members and offline members got paid as always even if we had problems so they should be no problem!

Regards

Tom Boll

Dear AGI admin

How do we send you our batch information so we can our deposits back? Do you have an email to send to?

I have not gotten paid either in the older 90 days plan. They have not paid last weekend either. This is probably related to their database problems from last weekend.

Buchy

Proof,

I don't know. There is nothing about referrals in the FAQ. I accessed the site via HYIP.com so I Alex would know if he got any referral money.

I got paid $30 on my $15 test spend on time. It seems everyone is getting paid on time automatically, just like the website says. I have some more 20 day spends pending. Will keep you posted on these.

Buchy

Hey Chris,

Are you having trouble with AG payment system? Safeatom site is having trouble since the site came back up after DDOS attack. They claim that the automatic payment system does not work. It seams that AG is having significant growing pains since they have been flooded with new accounts after EB failure.

Thanks,
Buchy

AG is back up. I was able to log into my account

gyllwann :

Scam! Scam! Scam!
I have not received the payment as promised ..

Someone help me!

8/11/2008
Batch: 4526737
Account: U3445099 (Saw Invest)
Memo: 7 day Plan (1,000 %- 1500% after 7 days)
gyllwannpai@gamil.com

You will not see any of your money back from this site. please do not invest in these sites with ridiculous payouts. I warned everyone on my previous posts.

glo :

Personally I imagine this is just a glitch that they forgot! Do not believe it is time to go nutz or hang TH, YET!!! Remember all of these programs as I have stated OVER and OVER have been greatly effected by the EB Fiasco! I understand there is another hearing Mon and please note the promised posting from the gov should be up by FRIDAY!!! As for AGI they have had a lot more to do with all these new plans!! Please try to be patient on all of them!!!

AGI should not be affected by the EB fiasco. It only started accepting EB about 7 days prior to the shut down of EB. As with the LR outage, they will likely not pay any of the EB plans during the outage. They did this to my LR account when it was out. I have several pending withdrawals and i will let you know if they get paid.

Site is down due to the following:

"DDoS Protection Service Has Been Suspended Due To Non Payment"

The site has responded to my withdraw request.

walnut :

The site stoic-capital doesnt open today.

It opened for me just now at 0830 central time (USA).

Just remember that the court is stronger than any security system that he may have. Hopefully the judge in the case will realize that other peoples' money is involved and force Ebullion (or should I say Fayed) to re-open to allow withdrawal of funds. He would be stupid to refuse such an order which would be contempt of court. Who knows when that would occur, but a petition may bring it to their attention.

I sent an Email to admin yesterday evening to transfer my EB deposit to LR. This morning, I checked LR and all 6 missed deposits were there, put in at about midnight. This site obviously considers customer service as a top priority. Thank you Elitemoney.

Buchy

I warned everyone about this site. They have copied their previous scam site to this new one. See my previous post for the details. They sucker people in with the ridiculous interest payouts. This program should have never been allowed on HYIP.com. The good name of HYIP.com lended this site credibility and peolpe got scammed. It needs to be removed from hyip.com.

This company is sending me spam emails: see below

===========================================
Please note that in all e-mails from Liberty Reserve we will:
Always address you by your first name.
Never send you any links or attached files.
Never ask you to send us your password and/or login PIN.
============================================

Dear Cindy,

You have received a payment to your account U8898254:

Date: 8/11/2008 04:30
Batch: 4501728
From Account: U3952397
Amount: $120.00
Memo: Plan B Payment - 4N1Traders.com

For information and support please e-mail us at support@libertyreserve.com

Thank you.
--------------------------------------
--------------------------------------

Hello Money maker,

Sorry to trouble you.

But I know that you like to make money from investment companies and do not want to be scammed by bad companies just like what I do.

Here's a Registered Russian Forex Trading Company I'd like to share with you in which I am making big profit.

This a real Forex Trading company! Paying for nearly two months already.
http://www.4n1traders.com/?8898254 That is why I recommend this program to you!

Don't waste your time and money on scamming companies. Just real company like 4N1Traders.com will pay you. "

I find it hard to trust them if they are doing this.

proof :

Hi Alex, proof here is any body being paid here as same owes over 5 or 6 days and nothing from Admin so the site is a PROBLEM right now.

Have you heard from them.

HYIP is the best site for monitoring, but my one complaint is that it takes so long for a program to show up as a problem.

now I have no problems with the site. my 14 day plan matured today, but EB is down, so I dont know if their automated system will deposit properly. I hope EB outage is short. The LR outage led to the downfall of several sites. with as much going through EB, this would be devastating.

I am missing payments on July 29, 30, and 31 as well. I have emailed them several times with no response. They are now paying the daily amounts.

Food for thought:

Invest 100 into 15 day plan and you get 130. Reinvest this 130 in another 15 plan and you get 169 for a total of 30 days investing.

Compare this to the 30 day plan that gives you 165 after 30 days. So there is no benefit in doing the 30 day plan.

Does anyone know about the monthly service fees for using EB. I was charged $9.75 and a friend was charged 8 for a low balance. Another person i know was charged 0.85. Anyone know what these charges are based on.

Once again the only admin that regularly checks in and comments on this forum is Chris from DTP. Just shows how much of class act DTP is. He is concerned about what is said and he clears things up for us in a timely fasion. Other programs should follow his lead.

I now have problems reaching their site. I get the message: "This site is blocked by the SonicWALL Content Filter Service"

I did some more investigating and my firewall is blocking since they are not an encrypted site. Is this a problem for anyone else? I was previously able to access their site last week. Now it is a problem.

markP :

I wouldnt go off of that. Most companies will copy this type of stuff anyways I wouldnt hold it against them. In fact other types of sites do they same thing all the time it really isnt a big deal although the referral thing you mention is kind of odd. Thanks for the warning though

Well I have been scammed by the site that they copied it from. Not smart if you ask me. Internet + bad news = travels fast and to many places.

I have had pending withdrawals as well. I have a $47 pendiing WD since july 31st. I have not been able to cancel it and resubmit it. Yesterday, my balance was $29 so i made a WD request at 0953 (on sunday). This was paid at 1500 (sunday). However the $47 still has not been paid. I have made a $74 request today, and I will keep you posted. The weekend excuse does not cut it since I was paid yesterday.

I am writing to inform HYIP users about this site. I read the terms on their site and it looked very similar to something i had read before. As a newby i lost some small amounts on E-gold profit club, which is blacklisted on many sites. It paid the monitoring sites to stay open, but no one else. Well the terms of SAWinvest are very similar to the terms of E-gold profit club. see below

From egold profit club http://egold-pclub.com/:
"As a private transaction, this program is exempt from the US Securities Act of 1933, the US Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and the US Investment Company Act of 1940 and all other rules, regulations and amendments thereof. We are not FDIC insured. We are not a licensed bank or a security firm.

Don't post bad votes/messages on public forums and at gold rating sites without contacting the admin of E-Gold Profit Club first. Maybe, there was a technical problem with your transactions, so please always clear the thing with the admin.

You agree that all information, communications, materials coming from E-Gold Profit Club are unsolicited and must be kept private, confidential and protected from any disclosure. Moreover, the information, communications and materials contained herein are not to be regarded as an offer, nor a solicitation for investments in any jurisdiction which deems non-public offers or solicitations unlawful, nor to any person to whom it will be unlawful to make such offer or solicitation.

All the data giving by a member to E-Gold Profit Club will be only privately used and not disclosed to any third parties. E-Gold Profit Club is not responsible or liable for any loss of data.

You agree to hold all principals and members harmless of any liability. You are investing at your own risk and you agree that a past performance is not an explicit guarantee for the same future performance. You agree that all information, communications and materials you will find on this site are intended to be regarded as an informational and educational matter and not an investment advice.

We reserve the right to change the rules, commissions and rates of the program at any time and at our sole discretion without notice, especially in order to respect the integrity and security of the members' interests. You agree that it is your sole responsibility to review the current terms.

E-Gold Profit Club is not responsible or liable for any damages, losses and costs resulting from any violation of the conditions and terms and/or use of our website by a member. You guarantee to E-Gold Profit Club that you will not use this site in any illegal way and you agree to respect your local, national and international laws.

Don't post bad vote on Public Forums and at Gold Rating Site without contacting the administrator of our program FIRST. Maybe there was a technical problem with your transaction, so please always CLEAR the thing with the administrator.

We will not tolerate SPAM or any type of UCE in this program. SPAM violators will be immediately and permanently removed from the program.

E-Gold Profit Club reserves the right to accept or decline any member for membership without explanation.

If you do not agree with the above disclaimer, please do not go any further."

And the terms from SAWINVEST:
"As a private transaction, this program is exempt from the US Securities Act of 1933, the US Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and the US Investment Company Act of 1940 and all other rules, regulations and amendments thereof. We are not FDIC insured. We are not a licensed bank or a security firm.

Don't post bad votes/messages on public forums and at gold rating sites without contacting the admin of Saw Invest first. maybe, there was a technical problem with your transactions, so please always clear the thing with the admin.

You agree that all information, communications, materials coming from Saw Invest are unsolicited and must be kept private, confidential and protected from any disclosure. Moreover, the information, communications and materials contained herein are not to be regarded as an offer, nor a solicitation for investments in any jurisdiction which deems non-public offers or solicitations unlawful, nor to any person to whom it will be unlawful to make such offer or solicitation.

All the data giving by a member to Saw Invest will be only privately used and not disclosed to any third parties. Saw Invest is not responsible or liable for any loss of data.

You agree to hold all principals and members harmless of any liability. You are investing at your own risk and you agree that a past performance is not an explicit guarantee for the same future performance. You agree that all information, communications and materials you will find on this site are intended to be regarded as an informational and educational matter and not an investment advice.

We reserve the right to change the rules, commissions and rates of the program at any time and at our sole discretion without notice, especially in order to respect the integrity and security of the members' interests. You agree that it is your sole responsibility to review the current terms.

Saw Invest is not responsible or liable for any damages, losses and costs resulting from any violation of the conditions and terms and/or use of our website by a member. You guarantee to Hair Invest that you will not use this site in any illegal way and you agree to respect your local, national and international laws.

Don't post bad vote on Public Forums and at Gold Rating Site without contacting the administrator of our program FIRST. Maybe there was a technical problem with your transaction, so please always CLEAR the thing with the administrator.

We will not tolerate SPAM or any type of UCE in this program. SPAM violators will be immediately and permanently removed from the program.

Saw Invest reserves the right to accept or decline any member for membership without explanation.

If you do not agree with the above disclaimer, please do not go any further. "

Its the exact same paragraphs from 2 different sites.
"Don't post bad votes/messages on public forums and at gold rating sites without contacting the admin of Saw Invest first. maybe, there was a technical problem with your transactions, so please always clear the thing with the admin."
"Don't post bad vote on Public Forums and at Gold Rating Site without contacting the administrator of our program FIRST. Maybe there was a technical problem with your transaction, so please always CLEAR the thing with the administrator.
Exactly the same paragraphs with minor changes.

Also on the FAQ page:
"Q: Do you offer any referral bonuses?
A: Yes. We will pay you 10%-15% referral bonus. Use this link to refer your friends: http://www.Sawinvest.com/?ref=xxxxxxx - xxxxxxx is your e-gold account. "
Why can you only invest with LR but they put e-gold account for the referral bonus. That makes no sense, so it was obviously copied from another site. If you dont believe me check it out for yourself.
at http://egold-pclub.com/ and sawinvest.com

This one does not pass the sniff test to me. Beware. Do not do big spends. In my opinion, only make small ones on the daily plans and see if they pay. Funny how their site name is similar to SAINV, a reputable site. Sorry I wrote a book here.

I invested $900 through EB on 7/17. $1350 deposited to my account on 8/1 on time. My referral was paid as well. Thanks SA. solid program.

Buchy :

i know they have been updating the site. I am in a weekly plan which has paid every friday morning at 0210. This morning, it did not pay me the weekly interest. Did anyone else have this problem? I have emailed them. The phone number on the website does not work.

Now my interested has been deposited. I have made a withdrawal request. They must have a delay in their new automated system.

SAINV just paid me $1350 today on a $900 investment. site still running well with EB. It paid me through LR on smaller amt this week as well.

i know they have been updating the site. I am in a weekly plan which has paid every friday morning at 0210. This morning, it did not pay me the weekly interest. Did anyone else have this problem? I have emailed them. The phone number on the website does not work.

I have had some trouble as well. I made a WD request on Sunday which showed pending on Monday. I made another request on Monday which went through immediately while the older one was still pending. I canceled it and resubmitted and it went through. It seems that the computer misses some occasionaly. Or is it not automated? Their site has been a stable payer. Very happy with this program.

roosevelt :

I guess i should have used quotation marks to show that i was not promoting the other companies. I am not promoting any other sites. This is only a quotation of the response i received from the UGC SUPPORT TEAM. I to could care less where they are from but to open an account with UGC you have to email a proof of residence or something showing your address with your name on it and also a scanned copy of you id or passport which ever one you have. this is the process they require you to complete to verify your account before you can fund it or receive payments from others. As i said i am not promoting any other sites and i'm sorry if i led anyone here to think that i am. the previous message was only a quotation of what the UGC Support team sent me. If i had known this would happen i would have just used liberty reserve or ebullion to invest with sainv. the only reason i did not use liberty reserve was because of the problems they were having but it seems that everything is in working order now. so when ever i can retrieve my funds from ugc i will be using liberty reserve to invest.

and just to let you know i was kind of skeptical about posting that part of the message about the other companies because i knew someone would accuse me of promoting them i guess i should have deleted that part.

OK, now I understand where you are coming from. It was UGC that was bashing SAINV. My mistake. In that case SA should drop UGC as a payment option if they are posting this stuff. You should forward their email to SA. Thanks for the warning about UGC. I almost signed up with them to invest in SA before they took EB. I didnt because they had high commisions. UGC must have a stake in those 2 programs that they are promoting.

roosevelt :

This is the response i recieved from the U-GOTCASH admin it seems that the ones that probably suggest UGC are the ones that caused sainv account to be blocked and it also seems that this person from the admin of UGC doesn't even know that they accept credit card payments. read this and tell me what you think: REMEMBER THIS IS NOT TO ALARM ANYONE JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WTF IS GOIN ON. I hope either i am able to get my money to another ecurrency site or that they take the block off of sainv's account.

I know what an investment site is... and I am well familiar with what is occuring. His account is being audited. People have been sending him funds by ACH transfer, they then CANCEL that transfer but we see it as completed from the bank and go ahead and fund their account. THey spend it to him as investment and it is not "real" money.. because they have cancelled the ACH but it is "fake" money. He then pays them back in real money from his UGC account. So we have to audit his account and suspend these defrauders. I do not know what you are talking about with credit cards... UGC does NOT accept funding by credit cards but only the methods listed on our website.. please review. You may preorder a debit card which we will have soon (within 2-3 weeks) and fund that by credit card. Or may w/d UGC funds with it.
By the way, this admin of SAVINV is from Bulgaria... now what do you think he is doing to EARN these ridiculous interest amounts? Just for your thoughts by the way. After we have audited his account and deducted all the "fake" amounts made by some member cheaters, his account will be taken from suspended. I hope you understand now . regards,UGC Support Team
PS Just because some HYIP forum recommends them, it does not mean they are real.. I know you understand that. I have myself been in this arena for 10 years and have lost much money to scamming admins of sites like this. I would recommend you to real investment site such as Cashlink Financial and Madzpop.

This site has been paying me through LR and EB. They have Comodo certificaion. They have been paying my referrals as well. Your comments are suspect when you put down an investment site, then go on to promote some other sites that aren't on HYIP.com. How do you know they are from Bulgaria? If they are, what difference does it make. It is common knowledge that international investment companies favor Panama since companies that do international business are not taxed there. So they moved their company to panama. Smart move if you ask me. I have never used UGC, but I am sure to never use it now.

Buchy

Chris,
I am getting the following error on your site: "Out of memory (Needed 82313184 bytes)Out of memory (Needed 82313184 bytes) "
Also, when i log in, there is nothing in the turing number box to enter. Once I logged in, I clicked on the Earnings history link and I was automatically logged out. I tried to send this through the support link, but could not.

Site has been paying like clockwork for me.

Thank,s
Buchy

Buchy :

I cant pull up their site. anyone else have this problem?

I get the following trying to access the site:
504 Gateway Time-out
nginx/0.7.6

I cant pull up their site. anyone else have this problem?

Buchy :

made test spend of $100 dollars of EB today on the 14 day (150%) plan. I will keep you posted in 14 days.

My referral received their 5% as well.

Buchy

made test spend of $100 dollars of EB today on the 14 day (150%) plan. I will keep you posted in 14 days.

I invested 3000 2 weeks ago. They gave me the 450 first deposit bonus. I have been paid my weekly 587 on schedule. Program working for me so far. My referral was paid as well.

Buchy

I am still having problems opening liberty reserve's website. Does anybody have any info on this. Do I need to reset my browser settings?

I am now able to get on the site and log in. First withdrawal pending.

My account is back up. Thanks for the quick response from Chris. Admin goes the extra mile to keep us happy on this investment.

Thanks.

Buchy :

I logged into the site tonight and my account was zeroed out. I had $1200 in the 100 day plan. It looks like all other deposits are gone to. On the main page, it lists the total amount invested and this is zero as well. Anyone else see this?

I sent a support ticket email about this problem, and Chris responded in less than 2 minutes:
"Hi,
we have a technical problem and are working on it.
Chris"

Thanks for the fast response.

I logged into the site tonight and my account was zeroed out. I had $1200 in the 100 day plan. It looks like all other deposits are gone to. On the main page, it lists the total amount invested and this is zero as well. Anyone else see this?

alfha :

can not open the site.

I cannot open site either. They have a turing number entry system. I enter the number and click to enter, but a new number comes up and it won't enter the site. Any ideas on this?

I have not received payment for 6/21 and it is after the deadline for the day. Anyone else have this problem?

They have been paying on the daily plan for me. Is anyone else having trouble accessing their site today?