Boo :

hello i can't seem to load GF website... problem connecting?

Hello BOO, BabyHuey here. Just wanted to inform you and anyone else who may be pondering the same question, I have no problem accessing the GF site or logging into my account. Consider deleting your Cookies at least once a week and all temporary internet files. Stay well, and good investing.

Good posts, PaPaw and Fairdeal. Glad to see that you folks have come out in support of Genius, balancing the negative remarks of the various naysayers who come out of the woodwork from time-to-time. I think Genius is the best of the best in HYIPs and anyone with them over time knows this to be true. Good investing to each of you. ----BabyHuey

Alex (moderator) :

babyhuey :

Hi, EdLover. BabyHuey here. I read your message and was also curious as to what GNI represents. I found it to be GOLDNUGGETINVEST, and you can find it listed almost at the bottom of the rating chart here on HYIP.com, and it is not being monitored at this time. Good luck with your investments. I, too, am invested in GENIUS, and find it to be just about the best of the best. Best regards.

babyhuey,
There is a very good reason for GOLDNUGGETINVEST being "at the bottom" of the list AND that it is actually shown (unlike most other "Not Monitored" programs). This is done so that users can have at least one uncensored place where things can be rightfully questioned.

I was asked (and I followed the wishes) by current users there, to stop earlier brought up apparent problems about GNI (of which there are practically mountains and that are, at this time, continuing to build up rapidly) and about some mainstream shills desperately backing this "trouble" due to their greed.

With that said, please let's try to not shift too much from the main topic to which this particular thread is dedicated to. Post accordingly if needed.

Hello, Alex, and thanks for your feedback. My only purpose in replying to EDLOVER was to report what I learned about GNI, and I only did so because I had never heard of that HYIP and wanted to satisfy my curiosity. My thought in stating that GNI was near the bottom of the list and not being monitored was triggered by my observation a month or so ago when you stopped monitoring STABLE INTEREST, which at one time was invested in by HYIP.com, then suddenly dropped. If you wish to offer additional comment on this, I welcome it. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, EdLover. BabyHuey here. I read your message and was also curious as to what GNI represents. I found it to be GOLDNUGGETINVEST, and you can find it listed almost at the bottom of the rating chart here on HYIP.com, and it is not being monitored at this time. Good luck with your investments. I, too, am invested in GENIUS, and find it to be just about the best of the best. Best regards.

19knight21 :

To Baby Huey or anyone else ,

Not been in the arena for like 3 or 4 yrs. Trying to figure out how to fund Liberty Reserve and what the best exchanger is? Is the best way bank wires, seems credit cards are kinda a pain from what I'm seeing. Can anyone out here give me some tips to steer me into the best possible direction , so I can look into funding soon. Thanks so much. Nathan :)

Greetings, Knight21, BabyHuey here. I have been using Getemoney.com exclusively, and find them to render excellent service and reliability. They are also prompt in replying to questions, and keep you apprised of the status of your transactions via email. Take a look at the website, explore its various features, and judge for yourself. They are located in Quebec, Canada. Give a shout here and let us know what you decide. Your response might just help another fellow investor. Good luck, too, with your investments.

veneteanuc :

I do not know where to post so I post here ...
If anyone knows an email address moderator Alex please give me ... I do not understand why in the rankings do not appear hyip.com http://www.stableinterest.com or https: / / www.nanomoneycorp.com/ know someone?

Greetings, Veneteanuc, from BabyHuey. If you check Alex's Blog you will see that Stable Interest is not currently being monitored, as there is no current investment indicated. I do not see anything for Nano, and never have anywhere within the Ratings. You can access GoldPoll for current info on both of these HYIPs. Good luck with your investments. ----BabyHuey

Greetings to all forum members. I just wanted to give all a "Heads Up" about a fake email being circulated, purporting to be from GENIUS, but actually links to a copied website for the purpose of obtaining your ID and PW. The email will state that if you don't reply by December 6, 2009, your GENIUS account will be frozen. Be mindful of this as GENIUS would never ask you to enter your personal ID data. Stay well, and good investing to you all. ----BabyHuey

killbot4 :

hello all
ppl, what happens with this company? i can't enter their site for a few days, anyone got the same?

Hello, Killbot4. I have been able to access Nano without problem ever since I've been invested in the program. Be sure you have correct address in your browser, and clear your Internet files periodically. Good luck with your investments. ----BabyHuey

Greetings to all from BabyHuey. Just a note here to advise that I have had no problems at all with accessing and utilizing the Genius site. Please, all, remember to carefully scrutinize emails, and never respond to any links within them. Clean out your Cookies at least once a week and delete your browser history, too. Stay well and good investing.

treo :

ummm geniusfunds cannot access there site, this is not a good sign.

Greetings, Treo. BabyHuey here. I have accessed Genius's website everyday, sometimes more than once, without a problem. Transactions have also been processed smoothly and swiftly. Hope this sets your mind at ease. Good investing!

MOWGLI :

it has been a few days since I was able to access the site. Anyone else having problems??

Greetings, Mowgli, BabyHuey here. I have been able to access the site everyday, though at times I first get the message of Bad Gateway, or other words to that effect. However, just moments ago I accessed the site and logged in to my a/c with no problem. All appears to be fine. When you access the site, take note of the message concerning fraudulent LR accounts that have been opened. It's all explained on the Home Page. Stay well and good investing.

martycage :

Hello Glo-- Can you share with us what the new header is? I went to Whois.com and submitted the name stoic-capital.com and didn't recieve any info. Please advise. Thanks again, MCage

Hello MartyCage, BabyHuey here. I did a search on Whois and came up with STOIC-CAPITAL.NET with a registration date of July 3, 2009, and an expiration date of July 3, 2010. The admin. contact is listed in Baku, AZ. That is Baku, Azerbaijan on the Caspian Sea. No way to tell yet if this is the Stoic we are awaiting, but that is all that comes up. Stay well and good investing, and let's hope for the best. Best regards.

Good morning. Here is another update: just moments ago I was able to log into my a/c without incident, and in fact was able to access the website eariler, too, and last night, as well, but did not attempt login at those times. Good investing to all and best regards from BabyHuey.

Good afternoon to all. Just a short note here to advise that I have twice, within a few minutes, accessed the SI website, but received a message of "Server Failure" when I tried to access my account. There are no doubt technical problems causing this dysfunction. Best regards from BabyHuey.

julietmike :

Hello babyhuey,
any news as to the Stoic ?
Regards
julietmike

Hello, JulietMike. No, but am receiving daily the Profit Stats report, as you no doubt are, also. I'm awaiting, as are all, the beginning of Sept., when we may hope to see the return of the Stoic in full bloom, so to speak. Will let you know how things go here. Good luck with your investments. ----BabyHuey

julietmike :

Hello babyhuey,
I tried to email the Stoic, but it was sent back because not accepted by recipient
nevertheless thanks

You're welcome. ----BabyHuey

julietmike :

Hello BabyHuey,
and right you are, but:
if you come across my postings 29.814
29.91o
29.929
you can easily see, that I have a couple of questions as to The STOIC.
Might be you can help me ? Would be great !
yours truly
julietmike

Hello, JulietMike. The only email address I have for The Stoic is the one that was available on the website, which is: Support@Stoic-Capital.com You can try sending an email to that address. Since that is the sending address for the daily Profit Statistics, it may be possible for it to go through. All you can do is try.

Additionally, since you agree with my contention that you should not be using this forum for diatribes against other HYIPs, please refrain from doing so. Commenting on those other HYIPs does nothing for The Stoic and its respective Investors. Those who are invested in the programs of which you speak all know enough to access those respective forums and would not expect any commentary on them in this forum. Good luck with your investments and best regards from BabyHuey.

julietmike :

Hello,
biggest scam is BestFxworld.us, they have more than 47 bi (!), pretend to pay out and it is all nuts,
nevertheless they get new investors....
second worst scam ist Monte Carlo Brokers, accounts are active but they do not pay out.
Best HYIP seems to be Panamoney.net, they pay like a clockwork
Very good is Prolexbiz.com

You have made comments here with absolutely no importance or relevance to The Stoic. If you want to berate the HYIPs of which you speak, you should go to those respective forums and vent your spleen. If you have anything to say about The Stoic, state it here, and nowhere else. ----Best regards from BabyHuey.

By the way, to all of you Frenchmen on this forum, happy Bastille Day! ----BabyHuey

Hello, folks. Good to read some upbeat comments here in anticipation of the return of The Stoic's website and operations. As I recall, for what it's worth, back in May The Stoic advised that it anticipated being back in operation on August 29. Does anyone recall that? I look forward to all of your contributions to this forum. I, too, have been receiving the daily stats report and, needless to say, am looking forward to the return of the site and accessing the account. Stay well and best regards to each of you. ----BabyHuey

martycage :

Hello there BabyHue:; I've also been recieving profit updates from Stoic-Capital the last 2 days. Tried contacting support at support@stoic-capital.com and it returns undeliverable. if stoic is back; than why is the site inaccecible? what are your thoughts? just trying to be optimistic .. let's all keep our fingers crossed. :)

Hello, Martycage. BabyHuey here, and thanks for your comment. I have also received another Profit Stats update for yesterday; after 1pm today there should be another, based on past experience. The Stoic's Admin. had stated back in May that they anticipated being back in operation by the end of August; so, if all goes well, that will hopefully come to pass. Since the website has been down for a few weeks, or just about a month, I'm certain it will take some time to resurrect and secure an SSL Certificate, etc. I remain an optimist and believe that we will eventually receive an explanatory email from The Stoic, as they were good at communicating with investors prior to the start of the various problems The Stoic incurred. Try to keep the faith and maintain patience, and hopefully things will get back to normal and fruit will ultimately be borne. Stay well and best regards.

Good day to all! Good news here, too, and hope that it portends well for the near future. Have also received a Profit Stats email from The Stoic, indicating the earnings rates for July 1, 2009. I have not yet checked the website, but hope along with each of you that it will eventually be up again. Will keep you posted if anything further develops. Thanks to all for posting your comments here. Stay well and hopefully awaiting concrete good news! ----BabyHuey

Escudo :

This plan, much like Jetprofit.biz seems to be Going, Going, GONE! I haven't received any further e-mails about their rates in the past 3-4 days. Those were a daily ritual for them.

Hi, Escudo. BabyHuey here. I think we should, for the moment, give Stoic the benefit of the doubt. They would not be generating any daily statistics reports about the rates while they are neither trading nor paying interest. Let us see what the situation is after 5/29, at which time their operation is to allegedly resume. Just my two cents' worth, but I think we shouldn't totally write off the Stoic yet. Stay well and good investing.

Hello, Everest, and thanks so much for your explanatory comments re your previous posting about info coming from the U.S. Treasury Dept. Much appreciated! Will follow through and explore further. Thanks, too, for the overall positive and intelligent nature of your commentary. Certain other participants in this forum would do well to emulate your style and approach. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from BabyHuey.

Everest :

Paid. ....seen a lot arguments, assumptions on stoic all over the net.Even LR were not spared... I think Stoic have given up offering rebuttals to a point they just let results speaks for itself. do read the news that came out from US treasury. It may help make sense to a lot things.

Hello, Everest, and thanks for your post here. If possible, could you be a bit more specific about "the news that came out from US treasury," as you report. The Treasury's website is massive, so perhaps you can narrow it down to what link we should access for the details. Thanks very much for your contribution during these troubling times, and best of luck with your investment here. Regards from BabyHuey.

Rustysouth :

dragonmonitoring :

I still not recieve payment for 4 days now.
Whats wrong with you stoic ?

Well dragon I think if you go to the website and see that they where on holiday, that things would be a little behind. This being wendnesday and them not working until Tuesday would explain alot I beleive. People jumping the gun here are all new to this program. Some of us who have been with the Stoic from the beginning no this is where you want to be, and dont jump the gun things will be just fine here. Patience is a virtue. Peace
Rusty

Well said, Rusty, well said. Regards from BabyHuey.

Good evening, Papalodell, Proof, Ray, Time and Chance, TH, The Fool, and all other regulars perhaps too numerous to mention or, if my memory fails me as I am writing this, forgive me if I've left anyone out. I thank all of you for coming forth and lending support to The Stoic and this Forum which has been sorely in need of positive comments from the faithful who have time, faith and money invested here. If we can keep contributing comments here on our positive experiences with Stoic, then we should be able to far outshout the naysayers with whom we are all fed up, to say the least. I access this Forum at least twice a day, but do not always contribute. Lately, as you all no doubt are aware, the Forum has been dominated by the naysayers, and we, who have funds invested here, have been shying away somewhat from offering comments to counteract those of the negatrons. Let's make an effort to change that and keep this Forum alive and well to report on the good that Stoic has generated for many of us. Even if it is just an email to the Stoic for which you received an answer, report it for all to know so that a newbit naysayer or non-investor who has no vested interest here cannot state with any credibility that the Stoic is for naught. Stay well fellow investors and faithful contributors to this Forum and help to keep the Stoic's good name in lights for all to see. Best regards, and thanks, to all from BabyHuey.

Hello, Everest, BabyHuey here. Congrats to you on your good commentary re Stoic's Congress, Hotel registry, etc. Your comments reflect a thoughtful application of much-needed logic in this forum, counteracting the seemingly endless flow of detritus from the naysayers who frequent this community. It would be beneficial, I believe, if all the other sensible contributors to this forum also second what you have stated. We read a constant barrage of vehemous unwarranted garbage about Stoic; more breaths of fresh air are needed to clear the environment. Stay well and continued good investing.

Good evening, everyone. Just my two cents' worth here to advise all that The Stoic is accessible in the USA. My thanks and appreciation to Neil Kerry, Mr. Cagney, and all staffers at the Stoic for their communication to all of us about the nature of their downtime. Mr. Kerry, I know I will not be able to attend the Texas Congress, but I intend to purchase the DVD recording of the event that you are offering on the website. I am looking forward to learning more about the Stoic and being involved with this fine organization for many years to come. Stay well and God Bless from BabyHuey.

Hello Messrs. Kerry, Cagney and all staff members of The Stoic. BabyHuey here to simply offer congratulations on a job well done in announcing, officially, that the Congress will convene in May at three locations around the globe. This is a giant step forward, not only in the world of HYIPs, but in reinforcing in the mind of your investors, current and future, that your organization is indeed real, viable and poised to fulfill your goal of becoming the best of hedge funds by 2010 and beyond! I am currently invested with you and plan to remain so with additional investments in the very near future. I will not be able to attend the Congress, but I intend to place an order for your DVD recording of the event. Continued good success and many thanks for the level of communication and transparency you offer to your investors. Stay well and God bless!

getgreatstuff88 :

List of exchanges rates that you can exchange LR USD for bank wire. Has anyone used GetEMoney before? They look like they are the cheapest option. Are they reliable?

GetEMoney 3.5%
AsianaGold 4.5%
eBuyGold 5%
CentreGold 5%
LGE 8%
ExchangesPlus 8%
GoldExchange.eu 9.9%
PaysGold 15%
Me-Gold 19.99%

Hello, getgreatstuff88. If it is of any help to you, I would suggest you seriously consider GetEMoney for your LR transactions. I have used them quite a few times and find them to be prompt, efficient, and very user-friendly. They are based in Montreal, so if you opt for withdrawals, for example, by mail, you should receive your payment in about 5 days from time of withdrawal. I am assuming you reside in the USA. The 3.5% rate you quote is correct to a set dollar amount. The rate changes, depending on the USD value of your transaction. You can determine what the rate would be if you utilize "FEES" on the Home page. Plug in the hypothetical transaction values and it will show you the percentage and actual fee amount. Hope this helps. Good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Papalodell. BabyHuey here. I wanted you to know I received your email and have saved it for my response to you. Haven't had a chance to sit down and draft an answer as I would wish to do. Will do say either later tonight or tomorrow afternoon (Monday). Glad to see your contributions here; you're a great investor in a great program, with just about the most informative comments any fellow investor would want to see. Stay well and God bless!

Good morning to all. Just moments ago I logged into my a/c with no problem. Have been accessing the a/c daily since inception with no problem. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good morning,
I have now been with valiant for over 5 weeks. I have found this to be a really good investment. Withdrawals come very timely, customer service is great. I will continue to invest here and will make other investments in the coming months. Thank you Julia for the great job you are doing.
God bless,
Papalodell

Good to read your comments here, too, Papalodell. I have to put off an investment here until late June, but definitely plan to invest here, probably in the KING program. I am happy to learn that you think highly of this program. Continued good success to you.

Julia, thanks and congrats on great administration of a great program. I am looking forward to being part of this family. Best wishes from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Greetings,
I have seen some really good questions and answers this week and have enjoyed following the postings. I am pleased to be part of the Stoic, and I am enjoying a great weekly return. I look forward to making another investment very soon as I find this company to be the shinning star. I saw question here about bigger payouts. I know of several in this forum who have and have read in other forums of others who have been threw with VIP investments and quite happy with there returns and payments. Has anyone heard any news on e-bullion?
Have a great day,
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell. Good to see a new contribution from you and positive commentary on The Stoic. Continued success and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, The-Fool. Thanks for your supportive comments. Hope our messages get across to whom they are intended. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good evening,
It was so good to see all the positive response from some of the older members. I think that some of the negative attitudes are just looking for a reason to find fault. Life is full of faults, and we find them wether we look for them or not. The big point in my rambling is that some do not realize the gem we have, or the potential we all have to benifit from such a great program. I have traded stocks for years and never had the returns I am getting from this great company. I persoanlly am making over 700 a day and it is growing day by day. I have never made this much trading stocks on my own or threw a brokerage with much larger amounts invested. With the current markets worldwide, I don't know of anything that can constantly preform as well as the Stoic is doing for us all. I have tried options, bougth gold,traded commadities, bougth bonds, and tried many other investments and the Stoic is out preforming them all. I might suggest that if you and determined to be unhappy with the Stoic to wirte to Mr.Kerry or Mr. Cagney, tell them how dissatistfied you are, and maybe they would refund you just to get rid of you. I don't know if this is possible with the terms that they stick to so strongly, but to me it would be worth making an exception to be rid of the negative whimps so that the serious investors who realize the opertunity that the Stoic offers, can enjoy this truely great investment. As to demanding that Mr. Kerry answer you, some things just don't deserve an answer. Some people no matter what answer they receive will never be satistfied. We have so many good people here in this forum who will help anyone at anytime. To see them beratted or disrepected is so very sad. You miss out on so much collective wisdom and insigth. I appreciate all the members who add so much and watch out for the others.
God Bless,
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell. I second your comments and the perspective it brings to this forum. I hope the forum members for whom your comments are primarily intended take heed and follow through for mutual benefit. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, folks. BabyHuey here, visiting periodically, reading, mulling over what is expressed here. I just want to add some of my two-cents worth in further support of The Stoic and the members of this forum who, together, constitute an intelligent consensus. First, as Proof has reported, I, too, received an email from Stoic's admin., advising about the Commonwealth Holiday. I did not find this shocking. We, in the USA, have a variety of holidays, some public, some of a religious nature, etc. Not everyone observes all holidays; for example, Good Friday is considered to be a solemn day, but it is not a public holiday, yet there are people who do not work on that day. Similarly, Martin Luther King, Jr. Day is a Federal holiday, but many people work on that day. So, Benie, in particular, what's the big deal? Nothing has been lost! Maturities will be extended another day, so what! Can you not be thankful that the Stoic exists for mutual benefit? You, and others such as George10, are pseudo experts who excel in spouting negativity--and nothing else! Why not stay quiet, in a corner and out of sound, and let good people do and say good things. Stay well everyone and continued good investing in the Stoic; and to Messrs. Kerry, Cagney, et al, of the Stoic, thanks for all your good efforts in having made the Stoic such a viable force for good. Long may you all thrive!!

Greetings to the non-troll members of this forum. Alex, you should consider striking from the record certain of the various arrogant and uncalled-for comments by Nase and Benie on this forum. There is no need to sully the Stoic's reputation and integrity here. The overwhelming consensus here, among those invested in the Stoic is that this is a sound, stable program. Papalodell, Proof, The Fool, Glo, CandyCane, myself, and others have repeatedly attested to personal experiences with the Stoic. If Nase and Benie cannot refrain from posting their folderol, then you, as Administrator, should take appropriate action to protect the integrity of the Stoic, its investors, and this forum for mutual benefit. ----BabyHuey

Hello, folks. I just wanted to post an update here in case some of you are awaiting withdrawals to appear in your LR accts. The LR website indicates that LR is undergoing maintenance, but it is expected to be clear for use in about 2 hours. Stoic has posted a news item to that effect. That's it for now. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good evening,
Just to up date all. I finished my first plan with the Stoic for well above 25 grand. Reinvested and withdrew from both plans and money was in my account within 15 minutes. Great job and thank you Stoic for all your hard work. I am looking forward to some great returns as my programs grow. Just wish you had been around 10 years ago. I would own my own isalnd by now.
To Proof, Glo, Babyhuey,Anita, The Fool and any I failed to mention, thank you for your support and standing strong. Good people working together can accomplish many things.
God bless,
Papalodell

Greetings, Papalodell, and thanks so much for your email to me. I was surprised, but happy to receive it! I will reply to you via my alternate email address, as there is a technical problem with sending or replying through the email address you used. I will be replying via AOL later today. Congrats to you, again, for the fine investment returns you realized via the Stoic. Continued success and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, folks (I/m referring here to Proof, Papalodell, The Fool, RustySouth, and others of intelligent mind, too numerous to mention: and to the Newbies "wah, wah wahs," who are evidently of limited intelligence, I say hello, too, and trust that you will soon depart. To Mr. Kerry and William Cagney, of Stoic's Admin., I want to say, "Thanks very much," for tackling my recent problem concerning receipt of the Daily Profit Stats Report; I am now receiving them. There was a problem relating to email addresses, and this has been resolved. The Stoic remains the top HYIP, and long may it thrive! I am happy to learn of everyone's success with their investments here, and I intend to keep investing here as long as it is possible to do so. To everyone, the intelligent and the "wah, wah wahs," I offer my best regards for continued good investing. Let's keep a good thing going and not try to do it in with rash comments and a flood of nihilistic negativity! Stay well, from BabyHuey.

Nase :

Bennie , I too sent an email to support with no reply.Its been 3 days

Hello, Nase, and you, too, Benie. Just to let you know: The "William" of the Stoic is William Cagney, who evidently is the contact person via email at the Stoic; I receive emails from him in answer to my various queries and, in fact, received one this past Monday. As far as I am concerned, and can see, especially in comparison to the various HYIPs out there of little or no worth, the Stoic is tops and I will continue to invest with them. Your constant barrage of negative commentary does no one any good and, if either of you have invested in the Stoic, or plan to do so, it would be wise for the mutual benefit of all if you would temper your remarks with caution. Best regards and continued good investing, with the Stoic, from BabyHuey.

Hello, Glo and Proof. I agree with your comments. When such a problem occurs, a query should first be made to Support, rather than yelling "FIRE," before doing anything else. I have monitored the Stoic since last May, when I first became involved in HYIPs, and now have 2 current deposits in this program, and plan to have more. FK, in the future, take heed and query first, explaining what your problem is, and refrain from hitting the scam button as you stand to do more harm than good! Good investing to all along with my best regards. ----BabyHuey

rae :

Babyhuey, glad to be back been extremely busy with other projects. Yes, my profit status has never stopped being posted to my email, I have it forwarded to my iphone everyday so I know the moment it comes in you could try clicking the send emails to off log out, log back in click it to on and see if that helps. Seems like I have seen a couple of posts with this problem. I really have no idea, but it might work. Good luck to you.

Hi, Rae. Thanks for your comments. I was receiving the Daily Stats Report way before I ever invested. I had established the a/c solely with the registration back in November, but did not fund the a/c until Jan. The last daily report I received was on Jan. 27. I am going to send another email to Support to seek their input on this. Best regards and good investing from BabyHuey.

Greetings, Proof, Papalodell, TH, and other investors in this forum. I am sorry to learn of the demise of this program, at least for the time being, and who knows for how long. I had been considering an investment (small for starters) here for quite some time, but for some reason never felt comfortable with going ahead and taking the plunge. This past Tuesday, I had reported on another forum of the most popular HYIP going, of my second investment in that program, and it was on that day that I decided to put all of my current eggs in that one basket; now that I have just read the last two pages of comments here, I am glad that I did! I hope all of you, over time, will be able to recoup your funds. My prayers are with all of you in this matter. I agree with the comments of UR's management, that the naysaying negatronic pundits contributing their nihilistic messages are to blame for what has happened. I'll step down from stumping now and leave you with my best regards and hopes for your success in recovering your funds. ----babyHuey

offshoresailing :

Greetings all! I just joined up here to echo glo's comment above. Several of my friends and I have invested with Stoic, and we all receive very timely payments. Recently I made an additional deposit with them, and made an error (my mistake) on my LR order, so the money did not show up in my account. I contacted Stoic's customer service department and they had the issue sorted and the money into my account within two hours. This occured on a Monday, and they no doubt had much weekend correspondence to attend to, so I was doubly impressed with their effort.

The Stoic has proven to be a reliably strong program for me and I hope to continue with them for many years. To find the level of transparency Mr. Kerry offers his clients is very rare in the HYIP community, and their customer service is outstanding.

Hello, Offshoresailing. I just wanted to compliment you on your positive commentary on this forum. Hope you do well here and keep the forum informed for mutual benefit. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

rae :

Hey all, rae here, I have been following the forems now for a little while, in my limited spare time, but haven't had a chance to comment. It's good to see proof,papa, TH, markP, baby huey and others of the oldest investors commenting again on these forems. Although some of the newer members seem to be skeptical of their posts, I have found them to be very helpful and quite frankly, I would rather have their experience and commments then to follow other forems which are not as informative or involved. I have also been rasther amazed at how rude some of the newer people have been when any of the "elders" have tried to comment on a post they may have done. It is interesting to me that they scream "Don't be rude" as they themselves have been Rude. It is the older investors which gives perspective to these forems. Enough of my soap box.

Anyways, as I have had my deposit on 50% compounding it has taken quite a while for me to be at the breakeven point with Stoic. I have now acheived this and have another placed another deposit of $5K in two weeks ago and will be in profit in a little more than 3 weeks. Stoic has been a great investment, keep up the good work admin.

BTW Bennie, I would like to remind you that you do not know any of us who are posting on these sites either, nor do you know our financial situations or our business backgrounds. It is my experience that most of those who have money and power do not go around on websites attempting to shame, insult, bully and intimidate others for their opinion, there is no need. I would just like to kindly remind you to not assume because we are investing in hyips we do not run professional lives on the outside, and again you do not know who we are either.

Well said, Rae! Glad to see a posting from you, and happy to learn of your pleasant experience with The Stoic. Just yesterday, by the way, I placed my second deposit with Stoic in the Christmas A/c, just under $2K. I hope to be placing a few monthly smaller deposits until June, then decide from their how to proceed with some of the investment proceeds. I appreciate the "elders" more positive and objective comments vs. the "newbies" pessimistic and subjective blabber. One more thing, Rae: are you receiving the Stoic's Daily Profit Statistics Report via email? I was receiving that regularly, but not since Jan. 27, and I haven't been able to get an answer yet on whether it is still being generated and emailed to us. I look forward to your comments on this forum. Stay well, good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

Nase :

if you had 10-15 million dollars i dont think you'd be here..

Good comment, Nase; additionally, if he has that much, why should he worry so much, on the verge of fanaticism, on depositing a million or two here? He could make the investment, taking the gamble that he will win; if he loses, he would still be afloat. His "white glove" approach here is really not necessary. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Matthew2C :

Fellow Forum Members, and certainly I second what so many others have said; we welcome your comments Proof and are glad to hear from you again.

If I may say this once and for all with great humility, how THANKFUL I am for the Stoic and for Mr. Kerry and his team!!!

Secondly in this world of investing if I may ask everyone who insists on trying to make others bow to their preferences/ and wants to simply STOP!!! If you don't like the Stoic for whatever reason no matter how big or small your politics are, don't invest with them; and the rest of us will take our profits and enjoy our lives while you enjoy yours with your rationale in tact, and our sanity in tact as well.

Complaints on this forum about your continued disagreement with something doesn't mean that the something will change, and again if you don't like that fact you don't have to invest with them.

Just quit being the one who comes to the party and tries to ruin everyone's fun because you don't like the punch, or the way it was made!!

Just my two cents... and again, THANK YOU STOIC ALONG WITH MR. KERRY AND HIS TEAM/ STAFF FOR YOUR FAITHFULNESS TO THE INVESTOR!!!!!!

Well said, MATT2C, well said! Good to read some comments from you again. I replied to the comments of Papalodell and Proof earlier today, and in my remarks I alluded to the negativity that has been exhibited on this forum for almost 2 months. What you have written here precisely expresses my feelings on the matter. The old saw, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," cetainly applies here when we have a number of contributors trying to give The Stoic the white-glove treatment, which I think is uncalled for. Anyhow, stay well and continued good investing with best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof and Papalodell. Glad to read your comments here. I am considering an investment here, too. Will decide between now and tomorrow, when I will be placing an investment at another HYIP. Diversity is key in this field, as you well know from what has transpired over the past 6 or 7 months. Will update here accordingly. I wish both of you continued good investing here and elsewhere. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof, greetings from BabyHuey. I replied to Papalodell's comments, too, but wanted to acknowledge your postings, too. I have been watching the forums, but have not been too active in contributing for the past two months. In the aftermath of what has transpired the past year, I have been mulling over things and trying to absorb all that I can about the best HYIPs in which to invest. I will be placing my second deposit with the Stoic tomorrow, and hopefully thereafter additional deposits on a monthly basis. I will diversify and am considering two other sites and will post accordingly in the respective forums. I look forward to your comments very much, as I do of Papalodell's. Stay well, best regards and continued good investing to you.

papalodell :

Greetings,
Proof so good to hear from you as you comments are missed. Just wanted to say how pleased I am with Stoic and admin. Looking forward to the 26th and much further into the future. I see from the number of new post that many recently haven't been threw all the ups and downs that we have been hit with. If they had, they might have a greater appreciation for this program and the great support from Mr. Kerry and Stoic group. Keep up the good work and I will continue to invest for the long term. The Stoic is still number one in my book and a great stable paying program.
God bless,
Papalodell

Greetings, Papalodell, from BabyHuey. It was refreshing to read your comments, compared to the negativity that has been expressed in this forum over the past two months. I, too, am most appreciative for the Stoic, its existence, efforts, and transparency for its investors. Tomorrow, I anticipate placing my second deposit here and will post an update to that effect. I'll be investing in the Christmas plan for its shorter term. Stay well, best regards to you and continued good investing.

Rustysouth :

Today my first investment matured, after one hundred days. I reinvested and also withdrew some funds. The funds went to my LR account very quickly, I am impressed. Julia and the whole Valiant team keep up the good work. Thank you Glo for clueing me in on this one it is appreciated. Great program get involved here.
Peace
Rusty

Hello, Rusty. BabyHuey here. Glad to learn of your pleasant experience here. I hope to be invested here later this month, and will update accordingly. Valiant appears to be a great program, and long may it thrive. Stay well and continued good investing.

papalodell :

Babyhuey,
Welcome and good luck. I have really enjoyed this one and hope it will last a long time. Glad to hear from you and look forward to your imput in this forum. I think safeatom knocked the wind out of all of us. The forum has been quite compared to before Christmas. Keep it touch and let us know how you like the Stoic.
God bless,
Papalodell

Hi, PapaLodell. Thanks so much for having taken a moment to respond to my comments yesterday. It is good to hear from you, you and many of the other good members of this forum, who contribute regularly, make this forum worthwhile. Yes, SA did knock some of the wind from our sails, and was a great disappointment to say the least; but we have to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and start all over again, as the old song goes. Next month I hope to be able to place another deposit with the Stoic, and a deposit with another HYIP, which I will mention on the other popular forum, which you will no doubt come across. I don't want to have a conflict, so I won't name it here, but it is another long-running program and well regarded by all. I hope the commentary picks up here by the old-timers in this program, for that makes for lively and interesting reading. I will stay in touch and look forward, as always, to your timely and important input. Stay well and good investing for the New Year. ----BabyHuey

Good evening, folks. I've been observing the scenes for a while and haven't been posting anything on any of the forums for a couple of weeks. I wanted to let some of you know, though, that as of just a few minutes ago, I have placed my first deposit with THE STOIC, something I have been waiting to do for the past few months. I anticipate another deposit here next month, God-Willing. I trust that all of you invested here are well-satisfied. Let us hope that the Stoic will continue to flourish during these troubled times to its and our mutual benefit. I will post here from time-to-time and look forward to the comments of all. A Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year to each of you. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

strong :

Hi Babyhuey,

Got paid Yesterday 16.39. I changed my compound rate to 100 % today and am gonna let it go for a couple days and switch it back to o%. Then pull out till I am even. I will keep you informed.

Strong

Hi, Strong. Thanks for your reply. Hope to be invested here soon. Will update, of course. Good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Death watch, this not something new as I saw refrence to such in the terms of use section. The way it is stated is: The Fund leaves the right to require ID documents any time to identify the authority of the person or entity itself and as source and destination accounts associated with The Fund account owner as a true, duly and powerful holder of the account with The Fund and certain amount of funds accumulated and/or owed there.It has been in place the whole time and I like many others just breezed threw when reading it.
Mr. Kerry, I am confused by your answer to Forgeron as in first part it seems you say process can be started early, but later you state it is after maturity. Please expand on this and give us an idea what will be required.
Thank you,
Papalodell

Happy New year, Papalodell. Hope all is going well. I second your comments above, and I have written separately to Mr. Kerry, asking for some clarification. You can read my comments for yourself. I'll be updating here, of course, from time-to-time as the need arises. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Mr. Kerry. A Happy New Year to all at The Stoic. I anticipate making my first investment with you sometime this month. Would it be possible for you to advise what kind of verification documentation you will require to effectively allow investors to withdraw from their Stoic accounts? Specifically, will your verification policy apply solely to withdrawal of principal, or will it also be applicable to withdrawal of earned interest on a daily or other periodic basis? Many thanks for your anticipated feedback. Best regards from BabyHuey.

strong :

I got a test spend of 575.00 here. I will update you on this.

strong

Hello, Strong. I presume your comment was directed to me; in any case, thanks for the input. When I invest here I will post and update periodically. Good luck with your investment. ----BabyHuey

Hello, fellow forumers, and Mr. Kerry. A Happy New Year to all. I just wanted to inject my two cents' worth here to state that the Stoic is far and away the best site I have yet seen in this investment field. The Stoic's policy of transparancy and communication is unmatched. I am looking forward to placing a deposit with the Stoic just after the middle of this month, and hopefully another in mid-February. It will be nice to participate in this enterprise and rubbing shoulders with such great forum members. Until my next posting, stay well, good investing and the best for the New Year. ----BabyHuey

Hello, folks. BabyHuey here. Well, I am offering this update with a heavy heart, as one of our esteemed forum members had expressed about two weeks ago when the demise of SA seemed possible, but all were hoping for the best. I processed some withdrawals during Monday's wee hours, and to date the SA website shows those withdrawals as "pending." My accounts are still being updated daily, but to what avail? My intent is to definitely invest in the Stoic around the middle of this month, and I will be posting on that forum when that event comes to pass. I will continue to monitor the SA site, until it folds or, if miraculously, it arises as a Phoenix and surprises us all! Stay well and good investing.

Thanks, BillD, for your reply. I guess we are all watching SA and this forum for signs of real life. Late Sunday evening, or shortly after midnight, Monday, I will be processing some withdrawals from a few accounts. I'll report here next week regardless of what direction the wind blows. Best regards from BabyHuey.

My Clone :

Hello Gents,

Any input/feedback on this one!?

Regards,

My Clone :-)

Hello, MyClone, a Happy New Year to you. Evidently not too many members who frequent HYIP.com's various forums have yet invested in this program. I am contemplating doing so, but am still doing some due diligence. If you are looking for comments on this HYIP, you can read quite a bit on the forum at HYIPinvestment.com. You can also try GoldPoll and HYIP Banker. Please consider leaving feeback here again for all of us to share. Good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

BILLD. :

Good evening everybody,
I'm able to access site with Safeatom.com and login with no problem but still have withdraw pending and still adding profit to account.
BillD.

Hello, BILLD, a Happy New Year to you. It's been a while since I've come across any of your inputs on this forum. Good to see you back. In case you haven't read much lately here about SA, there has been a lot of pessimism expressed here about the alleged demise of SA and the slim chance of its return. I have preferred to remain optimistic. On the SA forum in HYIPinvestment.com there are a few comments that are purported to be from SA itself, stating that it will return to making payments on Jan. 4/5. Other investors in SA on said forum have expressed optimism, too, about SA's return to normal operations. It is true, though, that the alternate sites; i.e., .net, .org. and .info no longer lead to SA's site, but to an organization called, as I recall, EFashionSport. A number of other HYIPs have elected to take a Christmas and/or New Year's hiatus for the holiday period, though some have elected to make an announcement to that effect. Too bad that SA did not follow suit. I made my last withdrawal on Dec. 22, and I have already received those funds via a draft from my exchanger. I will attempt another withdrawal during the wee hours (EST) of Jan. 5, which is the most convenient time for me to effect these withdrawals. Funds have been in my LR a/c within 9 hours, tops, each time I've made a withdrawal. Well, I will post updates here regardless of which way the wind finally blows. I look forward to your updates, too. Best of luck to you for 2009 with these investments. Stay well. ----BabyHuey.

rae :

I guys, I decided to put all this hyip business out of my mind until after the holidays when Stoic announced it would be on vacation for most of the Christmas/New Years week.

I would just like to point out that even if Safe Atom does return the probability that it will get all its payout done on the 5th of January is unlikely. They are going to have two weeks of withdrawals to process, which normally took them 2 weeks worth of time....I have one withdrawal pending since the 23rd of December and am simply going to wait to make other withdrawal requests until the pending one is paid (if that occurs) it makes no sense to continue to make withdrawal requests if they are not processing requests. I believe doing that will just cause more gumming of the system assuming they are planning on coming back. If they are not coming back then you are merely wasting your time and energy making requests that will never happen.

I hope they come back, but I have never felt they would come back during the Christmas Holidays. I believe the true test will be on Monday, if anyone gets paid report it..I do not believe all of us will be paid on Monday but it is perhaps a sign of life if some of us are paid. Good luck to all of you and God Bless.

Hi, Rae. Happy New Year, again, in case you didn't read my comments on the other site on which you recently left a message. Glad to see some optimism in your tone. I have tried to remain optimistic about SA throughout this past week. I've read other comments on other forums to the effect that SA will be back in operation on Jan. 4/5; and so I will be making a withdrawal during the wee hours of Jan. 5. I usually make withdrawals during the wee hours, and funds are usually in my LR a/c within 9 hours, or less. By the way, two of the comments that I have read on the SA forum in HYIPinvestments.com were purported to be from SafeAtom itself, stating that it would return by Jan. 5. So, it is optimistic I will remain until all proves to be false and of naught. I will post updates here, of course, no matter which way the wind blows. Good luck with investing and my best regards for the New Year. ----BabyHuey

rae :

Just wanted to wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Hope all is well for all of you and that you were all able to put the Bama and SA fiascos on holiday while you enjoyed family time.

Hyips are a hard world and if you cannot stand the risk you should look elsewhere as it will give you a happier and longer life...that beilng said, Babyhuey, I sure hope SA works out for you (as well as us all) so you will be able to join Stoic at the first of the year. Good luck to you all.

Hi, Rae, and a Happy New Year to you. Thanks for your comment. I'm glad to at least see a measure of optimism in your tone. I have read some comments about SA on HYIPinvestment.com, and on the GoldTalk Forum to the effect that SA is expected to be back processing payments on Jan. 4 and/or 5. The support staff has been out on hiatus for the Christmas/New Year holidays, and so no replies to queries were processed either. I made a query about a week ago, and it has not yet been answered. I, though, will make a withdrawal during the wee hours of Jan 5. My experience has been that withdrawals made during those wee hours produce a credit to my LR a/c about 9 hours later, usually around ten or eleven a.m. I hope things go well for mutual benefit. If my withdrawal goes through, I will certainly be in the Stoic this week! I'll update here and report the results no matter what! Stay well and continued good investing. ----BabyHuey.

Forgeron :

Alternate Safeatom Link: http://72.20.26.114/ is already reassigned to another site: Efashionsport.
I do admire the optimism of many here, but for me the message is clear when an HYIP stops payment without notice and doesn't communicate for days. But as someone once said here: "we will survive". Since I have learned to move quickly to green pasturage.
I read somewhere that SAINV ran on autopilot 14 days after stopping payment before disappearing.
Anyway, Happy new year for all!

Hi, Forgeron, BabyHuey here. Thanks for your feedback. The IP you have supplied was put into effect on Dec. 5, 2008, as an alternate address during the heavy DDoS attack that lasted for a number of days. That IP address was to terminate after the attacks subsided and regular access was then available for the main .com site. SSL protection was then put in place a number of days subsequent to the .com site again being accessible. On the GoldPoll forum one can read many comments of an optimistic nature, and one to the effect that a withdrawal was made and received by one investor in the sum of $20, during this current period of "no withdrawals." Most people seem to be of the mind that SA has simply taken time off, as do a goodly number of people during the Christmas-New Year period. If you go into the SA site, click on MORE NEWS and then scroll down a few lines to the TalkGold link, where clicking on this will bring you to the page or two of info relating to what I have outlined above. Good investing and a Happy New Year to you, too!

Hello, folks, and Happy New Year to you all! For whatever value my two cents here at this time is worth, I offer the following message, purporting to be from SA, which I found on the HYIPInvestment.com site just this morning, although the posting dates to December 27th. It goes as follows: Happy New Year! SA will pay you tomorrow. Sincerely your SA! The IP address stated is: 89.146.72xxx. I don't know how to check IP addresses. Perhaps one of you good folks who is savvy in that area can do so and report back here. I am still optimistic about SA and I have not made any withdrawals since 12/22, but am planning to do so on Jan. 05. Please share your comments about what I have reported here. Perhaps one of you has more info at this time that will shed more light on the matter. Continued good investing and best regards to you all from BabyHuey.

Hi, Papalodell, a Happy New Year to you! Glad your Christmas went well with the clan gathered around. It is the best time of year for family gatherings, to be sure.
May you have an equally good New Year, with health and prosperity throughout! Best regards from BabyHuey.

sempatico :

hi allll,

SA is opened more than one year,,,,,, a question?????? SA did this thing last year ???? i mean in the last CHRISTMAS & NREW YEAR.....?
who is the oldest investor with SA???

Hello, sempatico, BabyHuey here. No doubt you are a Newbie and have not done much due diligence yet on SA, and perhaps other HYIPs. FYI SA's website did not come on the scene until early this year, during Springtime, as I recall; and I did not invest until mid-May. SA was in operation, according to the info they supply on the website, and what info is available on HYIP.com, but not on the web. Therefore, what you allude to could not possibly have been in effect last Christmas/New Year's. As far as this year's holiday is concerned, it is not unusual for the financial markets to slow down, and other HYIPs have also taken a brief hiatus as the trading markets cool down until after January 1. In addition, the SA site is up, SSL protected, accounts are updated daily with interest postings, and as recently as the current week payments have been made to various program participants, including myself. In particular, since you are most definitely a Newbie, with 2 postings, and do not know much or have much experience with SA, it would be in your best interests as a prospective investor, and for the mutual benefit of all if you refrain from expressing allusions of critical doubt about SA. If you are planning to invest, I offer congratulations and best wishes for a prosperous sojourn in this program; if you are already invested, Bravo! In any case, don't jump the gun and express pessimistic cynicisms, as they serve no useful purpose at this time. Stay well and best regards.

Hi, folks. I've been watching this one, too. As of about a minute ago, was unable to access site, receiving a message of "too many connections." This site may be under DDoS attack. Will check again later tonight. Best regards, BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Mr. Kerry,
Thank you for addressing the Mendez issue and for the information and explination on holiday schedule. We really appreciate your imput in this forum and the great job the Stoic is doing. I hope you and your family have a wonderful time together and wish you much success in the coming new year.
God Bless and Merry Christmas to you,
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell. I agree with your comments and have submitted a message for Mr. Kerry on this forum. I am truly looking forward to being invested in this program and hope to accomplish that this week, albeit with a small amount. I will update here accordingly. Hope you and yours had a good Christmas and will have a happy, healthy and properous New Year. Talk to you again soon. Stay well and regards from BabyHuey.

Greetings, Mr. Kerry, and all the staff at the Stoic. Many thanks for your input re previous comments of Papalodell and myself, and others, too. Your frequent participation in this forum is a breath of fresh air in the HYIP world, instilling confidence among participants and as time goes on investor loyalty for mutual benefit. I expect to become invested in the Stoic very soon, possibly this coming week in advance of New Year's Day. My best regards for a happy, healthy and prosperous New year. ----BabyHuey.

Hello again, everyone, and thanks to Papalodell and TH for your comments re my recent input on the SA Christmas hiatus. With respect to what Mestre has contributed, I second the motion, and simply add that I, too, find the SA website to be working without a flaw and with SSL protection in place; my accounts are updated daily, as they should be, and I note that Mestre indicated a payment received as of Dec. 23, which is subsequent to what I received on Dec. 22, as I have stated previously. All of this speaks of optimism, not pessimism, and so it is optimistic I will remain. I have sent a query to Mary at SA and will share with all whatever info is forthcoming. Hope everyone had a good holiday and hope that holds true for New Year's, too. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Merry Christmas,
I need to correct previous post as inof I received from live support is different from what is posted on website as to holidays.On website this morning saw holiday schedule posted that the Stoic would be down the folowing days for holidays Dec. 24th,25th,26th, 30th,31st, Jan1st &2nd. It states that no earnings will be paid these dates. Sorry for misleading anyone as I relied on info from on line support previously. These dates do make sense as wall street will also be down.
God bless,
Papalodell

Good post, Papalpdell, informative as usual. However, just one minor correction: The stock markets in the U.S. were open 12/24, as the Wall Street Journal did publish that day, and I did receive my copy at the front door. When the markets are closed, the Journal does not publish. I'm not sure about 12/31, but if I receive the Journal that day, then Wall Street will be open. By the way, when you have a chance, read my last update on the SA forum. I still hope to be invested in the Stoic next week, God-Willing! Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello folks, BabyHuey here. Needless to say it is totally disheartening to keep reading comments of a morose nature on this forum. I have just read on HYIPInvestment.com comments submitted by one or two investors to the effect that Admin. and support at SA have taken a Christmas hiatus, not unlike that announced by The Stoic; and this will also be the case for the New Year Holiday. For the current period, SA is supposed to be back, processing withdrawals, etc., on Dec. 28, and then on Jan. 4 for the New Year Holiday. Let's take a breather here and see what happens. I understand that Mary, at SA, has responded to a query about the slowness in processing withdrawals, providing the info that I just shared here. I, too, will make a query and whatever I learn, even if it is the same as what I just presented here, I will update here for all. In the interim, think positive. There is an old Italian adage that goes: Penso male e trove bene, which means Think the worst and expect the best. If anyone must be pessimistic, think along those lines. I, for one, prefer to be optimistic, though the ugly head of pessimism keeps trying to surface. Stay well, people, and good luck to us all!

behonest :

hi,

Can someone tell something about following e-mail from LR? Is it fake?

Hello, Behonest, BabyHuey here. It is the stated policy of Liberty Reserve, which you can read on its website, that it will never send any member an email with a link; so, don't click on any links in the email, and similar ones, that you describe. They are most definitely phoney and are simply a means to gain your password and/or other aspects of your identity for the sole purpose of cleaning out your account. When you get used to receiving such emails, you should not even open them; just delete them. You should also go into Internet Options, via your browser's tool bar, and delete all browsing history. If you have protection in place such as Norton 360, or MacAfee Security Suite, you should periodically run a scan of your hard drive. Hope this info helps. Stay well, good investing!

Greetings, PapaLodell and TH. Re your comments about Mendez, I completely second the motion. This guy should be banned from the Forum, and any other Forums he frequents, spewing similar diatribes about good programs, ad infinitum, ad nauseum! Stay well folks and keep on with the Stoic and other good programs. I expect to be invested here, for a small amount, next week. I'll give an update. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Calvin :

Proof, TH and others, I have to say that I have payments pending from today and yesterday. I agree with you that to say that SA has gone is way too premature but there are a number of people who have payments pending. Lets hope that SA sort out the problem soon as this has always been a very good program. The site loads fine and I can access all of my account details, but the payments are outstanding. Maybe that problem will be sorted by tomorrow. Lets see.

Hi, Calvin. I made a reply to your comments, but for some reason the forum did not update; however, here is another attempt, but not as lengthy for lack of time. If you read my comments above to Asmalib75, on Monday I successfully withdrew in excess of $540 dollars, of which I reinvested $156 with SA; the balance will be coming to me via a bank draft from my exchanger in Canada. To suggest that SA is on the way out, as the aforementioned Asmalib has done, is sensationalism at its worst! You may have entered an incorrect a/c number, which would obviously cause a delay in posting. SA advises, when you make a withdrawal, as you probably know, that one should allow up to 48 hours for a credit to post to your digital a/c; SA further suggests that you contact Admin. with any questions after that 48 hour period. The longest period I have ever experienced for a credit to post has been 9 hours and 18 minutes; so, give it some time and by all means let's give a great program like SA every benefit of the doubt. Sensationalism feeds the doubters, skeptics and cynics and does no good for the general welfare and mutual benefit of SA and its many investors. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from BabyHuey.

asmalib75 :

hey proof and TH,
Take it easy guys, I am not saying that to scare you, do you realy find normal that after 36 hours no body has been yet paid. I am just analyzing the situation, and hope that the admin will respond soon to our email and comments. They must respond to thounsands of person who stick 24 hours waiting to get paid. so please do not pretend that you are not afraid that you are not waiting as well.

Hey, Asmalib75, what are you talking about?! Just yesterday I effected a withdrawal from SA, to my LR a/c, in excess of $500.00, and those funds are now on their way to me via my exchanger in Canada. Furthermore, SA has withstood the heavy DDoS attacks during the past week, and SSL protection is again in place on the website. For what reason are you ranting and raving, virtually about nothing? People like you crawl out of the woodwork from time-to-time for lack of something better to do! SA happens to be one of the top HYIPs, and if you cannot live with that, don't frequent this forum, or any others for that matter. Stay well and keep quiet! ----BabyHuey

proof :

babyhuey :

Hello, folks, here is an update in case some of you haven't accessed SA for a day or so. Latest news on the Home Page is that a new Phishing Site has materialized using the address: www.safatom.com. So, be sure that an "e" is inserted, rather than an "a" when you enter the address in your browser field unless, of course, you already have the site bookmarked, then you shouldn't have a problem. Any Newbies reading this, take heed so you won't be opening yourself to loss of your identity info, as well as whatever funds you've invested. Stay well everyone, and best regards for the forthcoming holidays.

thanks for iinformation and warning BabyHuey as this is why them hackers hate our guts because we will continue look out for each other and those crooks cannot stand that . This site i would also highly recommend to any serious investor.
from proof

Hi, again, Proof. Thanks for your comments. I have sent a Support Ticket query to Admin., re lack of SSL protection. I have asked if they have any idea when SSL will be back in effect, particularly on the .com site. I will post an update when I receive a reply. SA, by the way, is my main avenue of HYIP investment, and I plan to stay with them as long as they are on the scene. Again, long may they thrive for mutual benefit! Stay well and continued good investing. ----BabyHuey

TH :

Dang. I wish I had as much to play around with as you guys obviously did to be that far in profit. But when you start with small numbers, it takes longer to get to the big ones.

In any case, my percent profit is very good and hope to be able to accumulate long enough to be playing with you "rich folks" soon! Anybody spare a few thousand... ;)

Hello, TH. BabyHuey here. I, too, will be starting small here, but God-willing, by April hope to be in for a substantial sum. It takes time, but Rome wasn't built in a day, so the wait will hopefully be well worth it. Stay well and good investing!

Good morning, Proof, Rae and Papalodell. Thanks for your comments. I'm very much looking forward to joining the Stoic soon, and rubbing shoulders, so to speak, with all of you happy investors. I commend the Stoic's Admin. on conducting such a great program and for its honesty, transparency and excellent investor communications. As I have said of another site, which has been under recent heavy DDoS attack, long may the Stoic thrive for mutual benefit; and long may you good folks thrive, too in this and other programs. I'll be updating here again soon. Best regards to you all from BabyHuey.

Hello, folks, here is an update in case some of you haven't accessed SA for a day or so. Latest news on the Home Page is that a new Phishing Site has materialized using the address: www.safatom.com. So, be sure that an "e" is inserted, rather than an "a" when you enter the address in your browser field unless, of course, you already have the site bookmarked, then you shouldn't have a problem. Any Newbies reading this, take heed so you won't be opening yourself to loss of your identity info, as well as whatever funds you've invested. Stay well everyone, and best regards for the forthcoming holidays.

Hello, Proof, and all others who have been offering comments on the latest DDoS attach perpetrated on this venerable site. I have received a reply from David, at SA Admin., and he advised that even though SSL protection is not in place right now, it would still be safe to access one's account. About a half hour ago I was able to access the site, though I did not yet attempt login; just minutes before logging on to HYIP.com, I tried SA again, and could not access the site. So, it is quite unstable at this time. I haven't been able to log in under .net or .info as well. When I do access the site again, I will attempt to login. I'll report results here later. Good investing to all and best regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi All this site is paying as i placed a test here and same is doing good.
from proof

Hello, again, Proof. I find you everywhere, which is good! I'm considering this one, too. Will let you know when the moment arrives! Regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi all a quick update here as I have already earned over $19000 here and come mid Jan 09 with some compounding i will have a nice return when same matures so for what it is worth heads up to Mr. Neil Kerry and Admin of Stoic . And in terms of compounding up to 50% is good for me as i started at 20% and now up to 50% since same cannot decrease. And my initial investment was $5050. Great going admin, great going and after all the hell holes we have all been through thank God for Stoic.
from proof

Sounds great, Proof. Congrats, as I am glad you have had good investment experience here! It looks like I should be able to place a small sum with Stoic within a few weeks, thereafter I hope to make at least one investment per month with Stoic, increasing the investment sum each month. I'll keep you updated here. Continued success and best regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi all the site is back up an running from my side.
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Hi, Proof, I just found out through your comment that SA was again under DDoS attack. I accessed the site, but I noticed after clicking on Login that the site did not have SSL protection. http came out instead of https, and there was no padlock icon in the browser field. I sent a message to Admin. via its Support function to make them aware of the lack of SSL, in the remote event that they were not aware of it. I am going to refrain from logging into my a/c until after 9am tomorrow, as the site will probably be back up to par by that time. By the way, I anticipate receiving funds in tomorrow's mail from SA for the withdrawal I made on 12/15, just under $900 net. Stay well, and thanks for your feedback on these matters. Much appreciated. Best regards, BabyHuey.

Forgeron :

Hi Babyhuey, I think it is more accurate to conclude that SA has not a specific turnaround time. They may pay in less than an hour or after hours. The utmost importance is that they are paying. Stay well too and best regards

Hi, Forgeron, BabyHuey here with an update on turnaround time. I made a withdrawal to my LR a/c at 9:40pm Sunday; 9 hrs. and 18 min. later the funds were in my LR a/c; subsequently, I transferred from LR to GETEMONEY, and that transaction was lightning fast! I suspect making a withdrawal on Sunday eve. may take a bit longer than effecting one during normal business hours. Best regards and good investing.

papalodell :

Good morning,
I joined 2 days ago and have received payment to my L/R account each day auotmatically. I invested in the daily plan and think this will be a program to watch for good short term returns. We have seen a lot of programs come and go this year, and I would say that each and everyone of us have been burned at one time or another. If we can find a few programs that work well, we can off set the losses and in the long term win. Any investment we make has risk, including the stock market, bonds,forex,etc. We invest with good intentions and hard earned money hoping to do better for our selves and our families. It is never easy to take a loss, but if we can keep or spirits strong and stay focussed we will win over time. Thank you to all who add value to this forum. Your comments and guidance help us all to make careful and informed decissions.
God bless,
Papalodell

Thanks, Paplodell, for your usual cogent remarks. Much appreciated. I expect to be in this one, too, in due time. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof. Thanks for your comments on the lack of SSL protection. I hope to join this program, too, in a short time. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Just checked my investment and loving life. My investment has reached the 5 figure amount and is growing by leaps and bounds everyday. I look forward to making a large investment after the first of the year and recouping some of the stangering losses I have had wife the stock market. I have absolutely no complaints with the Stoic. Never a problem. Just a well run company with top notch management, good communication, truth and honesty in all their dealings with clients. As I have said before, Stoic sets the standard as to how these other investment companies should run. Great job Mr.Kerry and company.
Papalodell

Well said, Papalodell. Glad to read your optimistic, uplifting remarks. Long may The Stoic thrive! I'll be in this one soon! Stay well and good investing. ----BabyHuey.

rae :

Good Advise, BabyHuey, as always, don't open anything you are not sure of, and again thanks for watching out for us.

larocant :

Thanks BabyHuey

I work with MACOS and i thought that it was very safe. I'll have more attention because nobody is safely.

Thanks

Forgeron :

Today SA paid me only 4 minutes after request. Lately they have been paying me in less than 30 minutes. I see they have a special treatment for some investors, Great job!

Hi, Forgeron. BabyHuey here. That's a great turnaround time for you! The last withdrawal I made, about a week ago, took just under 2 hours to land in my LR a/c. I'll be making another withdrawal in about 3 days; I'll give a shout here to let you know how long turnaround took. Stay well and best regards.

rae :

Good Advise, BabyHuey, as always, don't open anything you are not sure of, and again thanks for watching out for us.

larocant :

Thanks BabyHuey

I work with MACOS and i thought that it was very safe. I'll have more attention because nobody is safely.

Thanks

Hello, Larocant, BabyHuey here. Thanks for your reply. Be sure to watch for those bogus emails to avoid some problems. Stay well, and best regards.

rae :

Good Advise, BabyHuey, as always, don't open anything you are not sure of, and again thanks for watching out for us.

Hi, Rae. BabyHuey here. Thanks for your reply and thoughtful comments. Let's keep the faith with SA, and good things should come our way. Stay well and enjoy some good investing. Best regards.

papalodell :

Good morning.
I have been invested with this company a little under 4 weeks. I have recouped intial investment plus profit and am loving this site. Everything has bee handled in a very professional way. Good communication, good customer service, Very good return on investment. I look forward to seeing how this company grows and where their plans take them in the future. I plan to re-invest when all 3 of my current plans end. I can recommend this investment and feel good about doing so. I have been withdrawing funds on weekly base and recieving $466.13. Just a great return for a short term 30 day program.
Babyhuey, have you joined yet?
Good bless,
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell, BabyHuey here. Glad to see you are realizing profit in this program. No, I haven't yet joined, but hope to do so soon. Am waiting to realize some more profit via SA to place into this program. Will update here when that comes to pass. Best regards.

larocant :

Hi

My password from my account was stolen, and the admin has restored my account and set new password.

Safeatom is a excellent program and they are excellent professionals

Thanks

Hello, Larocant, BabyHuey here. For your protection, you should perform a scan of your computer at least once a week to check for any potential problems, and it might be good for you to go into Tools (top right of your screen) and click on Internet Options; then delete your Browser History. This will eliminate possible "tracking cookies," and don't forget to never click on any links in emails that direct you to websites. For example, Liberty Reserve will never send you an email, asking you to update your information via a link provided in the email. I have received many phoney, scammer emails purporting to be from Liberty Reserve. I simply delete them without opening them. In the event you should open one of these emails, just delete it and then consider doing a quick scan to insure that no viruses, worms, etc. were planted on your hard drive. Hope this helps you somewhat. Stay well, good investing, and we can both be thankful for a great program like SafeAtom, truly one of the best!

Thanks, Proof, for your reply. I am not invested in this program, but I had recalled reading one of your entries on the ratings page, so when I came across the info in the GoldPoll Newsletter, I thought of you and entered my comments. Glad to help, even though you already knew about this problem; I had not read your previous comment on this particular problem. Stay well and always alert. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof, et al. I forgot to mention one thing in the posting I made moments ago. In the reply I received from Mike, at EKO, he did indicate that they hoped to eventually participate in the Forum. Time will tell. Regards, again, BabyHuey.

Good morning, folks. I had sent a query to Admin. re the fact that there is no SSL protection indicated on the EKO site. I received a reply from Mike to the effect that such protection is not needed because no user accounts are maintained on the site, with payments going direct to one's e-currency a/c. Just thought I'd pass this on in case another forum member had concerns about it. I may be investing here soon and will post updates accordingly. Stay well, good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof, Alex, and other participants in this Forum. I just thought I'd mention here something I just read in the weekly GoldPoll Newsletter received each Wednesday, in case you folks don't subscribe to it. It recommends that prior to making any withdrawals from this fund, you check your Profile on the fund's site to determine if anything has been changed, as the GoldPoll's e-currency account data has been compromised. Hope this is not the case for any of you good people. Stay alert, good investing and regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi All i just placed a test here and will report my findings in 5 days time as i have a strong hunch based on what i have researched and seen so far on this one.
from proof

Hi, Proof. I just came across EKO about an hour ago. Checked the website and fired off an email to admin., querying them on whether there is SSL protection on the site. Didn't notice any verbiage to that effect. I also asked if they had any plans to participate in this forum, as do other administrators of certain sites (you know of the ones to which I'm referring), as that would add to establishing rapport, credibility and trust. I'll post an update here when I receive a reply. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Thanks, URINVEST SUPPORT, for your reply to my query in this Forum, and for the email you sent me. Much appreciated. I hope to be placing an investment with you in a short time. Keep up the good work with your program and your fine record of communicating with your investors. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello Proof, Papalodell, and Dapper. Nice to read all of your comments, and thanks for your kind replies. Let's hope that SA will be able to continue to withstand and overcome any and all DDoS attacks, etc., and the maliciously evil intent motivating the hackers, who should be contemplating their deeds while sitting behind bars! Keeping the faith with SA should be mutually beneficial to all. Each of you stay well, enjoy the holidays, and pray for world peace along with good investing. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Babyhuey,
I been invested here for a little over 3 weeks. I made my 4th withdrawal yesterday and have recouped investment and am seeing profit now. Support has been great and service also. Had one delay on payment to L/R , but was during a time the site was down. Last 2 withdrawals have been very prompt and am planning to reinvest at the end of my plans. I have 3 running now and am looking forward to redoing these for larger amounts. Do your homework and join when you are ready.
Papalodell

Thanks for your reply, Papalodell. I made one observation on the website and would appreciate your comment on it. I have queried Admin. and am awaiting a reply. I noticed that SSL protection is provided by COMODO, as indicated on the Home Page; however, when I accessed the NEW ACCOUNT page, the usual padlock icon, indicating SSL protection in effect, did not appear in the browser/web address window at the top of the screen. Do you find that to be the case, too? If so, have you ever had any concerns about it? Thanks for your feedback. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Greetings all,
Just made my 3rd profit withdrawal today and funds are in my L/R account in very short time. Good job Admin. I am really liking this company and the payments I am receiving.
Take care,
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell. I have noted your comments a day or two ago and decided to take a look at this forum. I've got to take another look at the Urinvest site. I will probably join this one, too, so as not to place too many eggs into the same basket. I'll start checking this forum more regularly to keep abreast of comments, especially yours, as they are among the best. Stay well and good investing. ----BabyHuey.

Good evening, all you good folks. For mutual benefit I just wanted to provide an update. Just moments before logging in here, I was able to access SA using the .com address, and SSL was in place. I accessed my account, and the only thing not available, with a message to that effect, was the daily/weekly chart of interest earned. I readily say THREE CHEERS for SA and its administration. In the choppy seas of the HYIP world SA attempts and succeeds at maintaining a steady course. Not unlike a stalwart captain of a ship under attack, concerned about the crew, SA shows concern for its investors and takes appropriate action. Long may SA thrive, and I hope all of those who invest in SA and contribute to this forum realize excellent profits from staying with SA for the long term. My best to each of you. Keep on communicating! ----BabyHuey

salle :

Thank you to Mark and Babyhuey for your advice regarding money transfers. As I stated previously, I am very new to the HYIP business but one constant theme of advice I have seen coming from the very experienced and helpful people on this site is "don't invest more than you can afford to lose", great advice and of course, common sense. If we all take this advice and it is not the end of the world if we lose some investments, why post negative comments and panic when some small blips occur on the radar. We don't need to add extra stress by spending too much on HYIPS. Have a go and if it works and you make money, great, if not simply move on and learn from the mistakes, after all life is far too stressful as it is. Hope you all have a great Christmas (those of you who celebrate it) and may you all invest wisely and "chill out".

Thanks for your fine comments, Salle, much appreciated. Hope they were of some help to you. You have a good Christmas, too, and a healthy, happy and prosperous New Year. After what has been going on world-wide, this year, we all deserve a better one in 2009. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, folks, BabyHuey here again. I forgot to mention how I arrived at David's comments as mentioned in my previous posting. If you access the link on the SA Home Page, via the modified link on the HYIP rating site, it will take you to www.Talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2831651&posted=1 There is more info there from SA about its expectations for returning things to normal. Bravo for SA, long may it thrive! Best regards to all.

Hello, Alex, Proof, Papalodell, Rae, and all the great regulars too numerous to mention. I have been able to log on to SA via .net; .org; .info; as well as through the link Alex provided on the rating site of HYIP.com. However, there is no Security Certificate in place, and you will note no padlock icon present at the top of the screen. I went as far as the log-in page, but did not try to access my account. I first wanted to find out the experiences of any who may have tried. I note that some have indicated success at making withdrawals, but do any of you have any comments to share re the lack of SSL being in place on the SA site? I noted the comments from David re the blackmailing attempt and the steps taken to overcome the hacking. I will wait until later today, and perhaps I will try to make a small withdrawal to my LR a/c. I will post the results here. I look forward to any and all feedback forthcoming. Best of luck to all of you, stay well and usual regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Thanks BabyHuey and all it is some on my PC that is causing the problems so my technican is on his way to sort out same and in the mean time great going BabyHuey let positive news and money flow right in your a/c and bank as we all deserve same after all we have been through .
from proof

proof :

Thanks BabyHuey and all it is some on my PC that is causing the problems so my technican is on his way to sort out same and in the mean time great going BabyHuey let positive news and money flow right in your a/c and bank as we all deserve same after all we have been through .
from proof

Thanks, Proof, for your reply. Home you can clear the problem up soon. Don't overlook scanning at least once per week, deleting browsing history, too, as a precaution. Stay well, and when the problem is solved, let us know you're back on track. Best regards from BabyHuey.

salle :

Hi all, I've been a member of this site for a little while and being a newbie I have just been reading and trying to learn a bit about the HYIP business. I would like to thank proof, papodell, babyhuey etc for all the great advice and hopefully I have been able to learn a bit from you all. I don't want to be one of those annoying, panicy newbies as posting in a panic can give a site a bad name and start a run on withdrawals and that doesn't do any of us any good (I just panic quietly at home). I do have a question for you and I hope an easy answer is available. I have a small investment with Safeatom (approx $3k) and I would like to withdraw some and re-invest a bit too. I am in Australia and will have to have my payout paid into Liberty Reserve (I was with e-bullion, Altergold). What is the process for getting money back to my bank account in Aus? Do I need to use a currency exchanger? Thanks once again for all the informed comments, it really is a pretty exciting place to invest if you are able and can cope with possible losses.

Hello, Salle, BabyHuey here. Hope the following info helps you. Assuming your investment with SA has matured, you will be allowed to take 25% of the existing balance. On the SA Home Page you will note that for those who made investments via E-Bullion (as did I) or AlterGold, the aforementioned policy will apply. With Liberty Reserve you will have to select an Exchanger to effect the transaction from LR to you. The LR interface with SA works quite smoothly, as per my experience, and your withdrawn funds from SA should be in your LR account in under 2 hours, though SA will advise you that it might take upwards of 24 hours. The exchanger I use is GETEMONEY.COM, based in Montreal, Canada. In fact, just a day ago I made 5 withdrawals from SA, and GETEMONEY already has completed the transaction with a check in the mail. I requested payment via a check as that is a low cost method of payment, costing me only 79 cents for the check and 79 cents for postage, as opposed to $25 for a bank wire, then my bank would apply another 10 dollar fee. Check out the GETEMONEY site and satisfy yourself that it is the right one for you; of course, you can check as many others as you like, but their site is very user-friendly and I was comfortable with their location, etc., and so I chose them. You can go to LR's Home Page and access the list of Exchangers doing business with LR. Well, I won't ramble on here. If you need more info, don't hesitate to ask. I or any one of another of the members of this fine forum will surely respond. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from the USA.

papalodell :

Babyhuey,
Papalodell here. That is great news that you are receiving profits. S/A keeps proving itself time and time again. I have had 2 plans mature and have reinvested into three more and will continue to invest as long as we are able. Keep up the good work Admin.
God bless,
Papalodell

proof :

Yes all I do believe it has some thing to do with my browser so i am going to get in touch with my service provider as it happening to a number of sites and thanks for the quick responses from you all.
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papalodell :

Babyhuey,
Papalodell here. That is great news that you are receiving profits. S/A keeps proving itself time and time again. I have had 2 plans mature and have reinvested into three more and will continue to invest as long as we are able. Keep up the good work Admin.
God bless,
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell. Thanks for your reply; always good to hear from you. Let us keep the good, positive news flowing. Hopefully, God-wlling, SA will be on the scene for a long, long time. We want to see SA thrive, for if they thrive, so will we over time. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, folks. Just want to chime in here to let all investors and potential investors of SA to know that I have had no problem accessing the site and, in fact, made five withdrawals this morning, and all funds were in my LR a/c in less than two hours, said funds amount to less than $1000. Thank God for SA, and long may it thrive! Stay well and good investing! ----BabyHuey

doram :

Thank you Rustysouth,
Great info and very encouraging about Tradelite.. Thanks a million. I have a question, I hope you don't mind. When a HYIP is listed as ""NOT IN PROFIT"" such as Stoic currently is, What does that mean? I far as I know, Stoic is very profitable. THank you

Hello, Doram. BabyHuey here. I agree with comments by Rusty, Proof and TH, and am confident about Tradelite. It makes no sense to press the panic button repeatedly. Rome was not built in a day, so to speak, so let's give it time to correct. With respect to your question about "NOT IN PROFIT," it simply refers to the fact that the interest earned to date for a particular investment has not yet equalled or surpassed the invested principal. When the earned interest equals or exceeds the principal, the NOT FOR PROFIT will be changed to "IN PROFIT." Hope that answers the question for you. Stay well, good investing, and best regards. ----BabyHuey

doram :

Thank you Rustysouth,
Great info and very encouraging about Tradelite.. Thanks a million. I have a question, I hope you don't mind. When a HYIP is listed as ""NOT IN PROFIT"" such as Stoic currently is, What does that mean? I far as I know, Stoic is very profitable. THank you

Hello, Doram. BabyHuey here. I agree with comments by Rusty, Proof and TH, and am confident about Tradelite. It makes no sense to press the panic button repeatedly. Rome was not built in a day, so to speak, so let's give it time to correct. With respect to your question about "NOT IN PROFIT," it simply refers to the fact that the interest earned to date for a particular investment has not yet equalled or surpassed the invested principal. When the earned interest equals or exceeds the principal, the NOT FOR PROFIT will be changed to "IN PROFIT." Hope that answers the question for you. Stay well, good investing, and best regards. ----BabyHuey

Hi, Proof. Thanks for your input on the problem of receiving/not receiving confirmation emails from LR. I read your similar comments on the SA forum, too. I am going to try what you suggest and see what happens during the next round of withdrawals, which will be in a few days. I'll report back on the results. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Jamesmachine,
Papalodell here. I would imagune that after the problems we have all had with e-bullion and altergold, the management will be very careful who they add. Just from what i have agthered from the time I have been with the Stoic, they do a lot of research before making any move. I agree that the fews we pay the processors are to high, but it is what we have to work with at the present.
Babyheuy, as always good to hear from you.
God bless,
Papalodell

Hello, again, Papalodell. Thanks for your kind comments. I agree with your discourse in this forum about the not-in-profit question posed as well as any caution taken by The Stoic in selecting processors with whom to work, considering what has gone on over the past four months. We don't need more of the same. I think it would be good if the Stoic would consider establishing a debit card system as well as perhaps allowing wire transfers, either way, at a lower threshhold than $20k. I hope to be invested here within a couple of weeks, though my funding to the Stoic will be via LR from another HYIP (SA) via an accrued interest withdrawal. That's it for now. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

time&chance :

HI Babyhuey,

I know I wasnt asked either, but I too have never received a notification of payment received from liberty reserve. neither have i ever recived one from perfect money. like Th ans Papalodell, i just check my account periodically.

Forgeron :

My LR email notifications ( LR sent/received) work fine, I always promptly receive them

Hi, Forgeron. Thanks for your feedback on LR's email notifications to you. Can you shed any light as to why you receive confirmations, while most of us do not? It seems odd that such should be the case. Thanks for your further interest in replying. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from BabyHuey.

time&chance :

HI Babyhuey,

I know I wasnt asked either, but I too have never received a notification of payment received from liberty reserve. neither have i ever recived one from perfect money. like Th ans Papalodell, i just check my account periodically.

Thanks, Time&Chance, for your reply. Much appreciated. I was used to EB sending confirmation emails for everything, so I believed LR would be doing the same. That's OK, though, as it is no problem to check, check, check, until one finds what one is seeking, as long as it is found. It was a relief to have found the various credits to the a/c! Now that I know this is the norm, I feel much better about it. Thanks, again; stay well and good investing. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Babyhuey,
I have never received an email from L/R letting me know a deposit had been made from an investment. I have received confrimation that funds were sent, but very hit or miss. Usually with safe atom the funds are there by the time I can login to L/R account, and the same with Stoic. I just check often when I am expecting funds to arrive. I see where TH responded and I did not know that L/R offered that option. I will follw his lead and see if I can set this up. I often check my account morning and evening when I expect funds. Glad to hear that you are getting profits. Isn't this a great place to invest?
Papalodell

Thanks for your response, Papalodell. Yes, this is a great firm with which to do business. When I made my first withdrawl of some accrued daily interest, a message came up stating that it might take up to 24 hours for processing and credit to your LR a/c. I did check my LR a/c shortly after making the various withdrawals from 6 different accounts, but nothing showed up. I figured that LR would be sending confirmation emails, as did EB. I checked again two more times, then finally late the next day when I checked for the third time I found the funds credited to my a/c. So, I guess the best thing to do is just check, check, check! It is odd, though, that I have received emails from LR stating that funds were received for my a/c when indeed I knew that was not the case. I'm glad that you, too, and a number of others, as well, are reporting receipt of profits. Pray God this will continue for a long time for our mutual benefit. Talk to you soon, again. Stay well and in profit! Regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Just received my second completed plan payout to my L/R account. What a great experience this has been. Transfer was made quickly with no hassles. Just a nice return on investment. Will re-invest into another plan and look forward to more great payouts. Good job Admin and thank you for being so honest and fair with investors.
Have a great day,
Papalodell

Good afternoon, Papalodell, we meet again! I wanted to ask you of your experience with securing funds into your LR a/c from SafeAtom. Yesterday, I made my first interest withdrawals from non-compounded investments. SA indicates that it may take 24 hours for the credits to appear in your LR a/c. Well, the funds have been posted to my LR a/c, but I never received any emails from LR, advising me that funds have been posted; so, I found out simply by periodically checking my LR a/c. Has this been the case with you, too? It is odd that I do receive scam emails purporting to be from LR, and I have in the recent past received emails from LR, sent to me in error, advising that funds have been received for my a/c, when in fact I know that could not be the case. Now, when I do have funds coming in I receive nothing from LR! Much appreciated if you could shed any light on this matter. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Proof,
Papalodell here. Glad that you have had such success with this great program. I just made another withdrawal for $528.00, but looking forward to great return in Feb. 2009. At that point I will, like you, invest into the VIP plan. I am really enjoying this great program and the fact that this is one of the best run companies we can invest in. Mr. Kerry, well done, well done.
Babyhuey, you need to get in as soon as you can. This is one you don't have to worry about. Just invest and let it grow.
Have a great day and God bless,
Papalodell

Hello Papalodell. It is always an informative pleasure to read your comments on all the forums. I expect to be investing here within the next two weeks and will post updates, of course. I have noted your more recent comments to Mr. Kerry, and hope he replies soon. I'm sure he'll have some interesting comments to contribute. The Stoic and its management appear to be consistently top-notch. I look forward to many months (hopefully, years) of investing here. Stay well and best regards.

Calvin :

Futher to my post of 12th November I have successfully transferred $873-00 to my Tradelite card and withdrawn cash from ATM. I have to say that I am verry happy so far with Tradelite. Also their admin is very helpful and responsive. I have another investment maturing later this month. Will post again. Happy investing everyone.

Congrats, Calvin. BabyHuey here. Glad to learn of your successful experience with TL. I, too, will soon be in this fine program. Keep us posted, as I will, too, for mutual benefit. Continued success and best regards.

proof :

Hi all this site has proven itself and continues to be one of the best around -I have made over $16000 and going strong here with some compounding and when same matures i will make another good amount which i plan to reinvest right here -as i want to be in the V.I.P class in the next round and for Mr Kerry keep up the great service that you and your team provides . God bless you all and there are still a few honest people around. Happy investing.
from proof

Way to go, Proof, way to go! BabyHuey here. Glad to learn of your continued success with this great HYIP. I trust your inspiring comments will go far to convince the skeptics that there are trustworthy and honorable players in the HYIP field. Soon I will be joining this program and trust that I also will be extolling its virtues along with you and others who join. Enjoy the success in good health. Best regards!

papalodell :

Good morning,
What a great company to invest with. Just made another withdrawal of $698.00 to My liberty reserve account. Money was there before I could login to L/R. Thank you Mr. Kerry for the great job the Stoic is doing and for being part of our discussions. I plan to invest a much larger amount after first of year as stocks are not preforming and feel your company is a safe place to invest. Great Job and thank you.
Papalodell

Hello, again, PapaLodell. Good to read your inspiring message here. I am truly looking forward to investing here, as I have read only good things about this company and good investor experiences. I'll post an update here again when I invest. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Babyhuey & Billd,
Before my investments matured I contacted Admin and asked if I needed to withdraw before reinvesting. They told me that yes I did, so I took the hit of 75% and then reinvested the amounts I wanted. They are earning now and not under the 75% at this point. Still made a good profit on my investment as I had them all at 100% compounding. I know I took the risk, but felt confident in S/A and it paid off. Way to go Babyhuey and good to hear from you too.
Papalodell

Hi, PapaLodell, BabyHuey here, thanking you for your reply. Yes, I could have done the same, withdraw and then redeposit, but instead chose to simply reinvest without compounding. The amount I withdraw periodically will of course be subject to the 4:1 ratio, but the amounts I would be withdrawing would be the same regardless of the method I chose. Within a month or so I will redraw the earnings for one month, with will be for me a net of $3123, and plan to reinvest same via LR so the 4:1 ratio will no longer apply to those deposited funds. I will also be depositing funds this way, via LR, to TL and Stoic, and will post updates on the respective forums. Thanks loads for your always timely and cogent inputs; they are much appreciated. Stay well, good investing, and best regards.

BILLD. :

My investment matured today and I reinvested $975 at 100% compounding. My original investment was only $50. After 7 days I'm going to switch to 0 compounding, after that I'm not sure what I'll do. Does anybody know if because I reinvested the whole amount if the new profit will still be subject to the 75% exchange rate.
Thanks BillD.

Hi, BillD, BabyHuey here. Yes, for the time being and until further notice, it seems to be the case that the 75% exchange rate will apply even if you select zero compounding; this is, of course, only for those deposits that were originally placed via EB or AG. Hang in there for the long haul. As an optimist, I surely believe things will get better over time. It is well worth the wait. Good investing and best regards.

Hello, Papalodell. Glad to read another posting from you. I couldn 't agree more with what you have stated about SA. Well stated, to be sure. I have 5 investments with SA coming due tomorrow (Sunday), and will be reinvesting all of them, but at zero compounding for the time being. I'll post updates here to share with all. Best regards from BabyHuey.

eleoura :

Hello BabyHuey. From the forum you will see that I have had some recent problems with L.R. and my email getting hacked. My accounts just keep getting hacked, I have lost quiet a lot of money. My confidence is at an all time low with L.R., can you tell me or anybody else in the community forum, what and why your account may get blocked ? How does your account get unblocked ? Do L.R. ever respond to the emails you send them via their contact form. I am still waiting.

After I realised I had a problem with my STOIC ac, and my initial L.R. number (the one I funded the account with) I tried to log on to L.R. and it said your account blocked. They have changed the L.R. password, but as to all the other codes, i.e. your pin number and payment code - - how could they possibly be known ?

Would forum members suggest a sep L.R. for each investment ? Also is there anyway for them to be able to get information from one of those virtual keyboards ? You see I am confused, as I opened up a different L.R. account once I saw that U2645977 had put their details in my account. Now this account has been breached ? But I put the Password in Via the virtual keyboard ? Please anybody ?

eleoura

Hello, Eleoura. Thanks for your reply. I would be at a loss to expound in any manner on the functioning of LR. Although I established an a/c with them about two months ago, I have yet to fund the a/c. However, within the next two weeks, I anticipate funding my LR a/c for the first time via a withdrawal from another HYIP, and I expect to fund my Stoic a/c via LR. I have never had need to communicate with the LR Admin., so I cannot properly comment on that; but from what I have learned over the past 7 or 8 months that I have been studying the HYIP scene, LR seems to be the most stable exchange processors and the one used by most people invested in HYIPs. Even thought LR has had its share of DDoS attacks, it has prevailed and still in reliable operation. I will certainly pass on my experiences with LR in this forum for mutual benefit, but at this time cannot properly comment on LR for the aforementioned reasons. In the future, though, you should consider protective software for your system and employ scanning and browser-history deletion as I suggested in my first reply to you. One other thing you should do is periodically change your passwords and use virtual keyboards when available. Please keep this forum updated on your experiences. Good luck with your quest to rectify matters, and best regards. ----BabyHuey.

BILLD. :

My investment matured today and I reinvested $975 at 100% compounding. My original investment was only $50. After 7 days I'm going to switch to 0 compounding, after that I'm not sure what I'll do. Does anybody know if because I reinvested the whole amount if the new profit will still be subject to the 75% exchange rate.
Thanks BillD.

Hello, BillD, BabyHuey here. Just moments ago I reinvested the total balance of one matured investment, amounting to $156.27, and did so at zero compounding. In 6 days, I have 5 more investments maturing in excess of $20,000; I will probably reinvest the entire amount, again at zero compounding. I will again post an update as to how things go. Please post again to share your experience. Good investing and best regards.

eleoura :

Dear Mr KERRY, I could literally cry I am so relieved, thank you so much for hearing me. This has been so stressful for me. Please keep the account locked until we organise ownership. I have made absolutely no request for these funds, to be withdrawn these people got into MY LARGE SUM account and have requested funds. So this day I had to take the day of work find a Notarary Public, take my passport get it Notorised and email it to Mr Flanders at L.S. they had likewise sent in a phony drivers licence with my name on it.

No wonder I had received no response from Stoic, you most probably never got the emails (that was from my email account that was obviously compromised). I have called Jenny, twice. To get to the bottom of this. Let me say that she was really good and assured me that we would be able to get to the bottom of it and in not so many words told me to calm down. I kept saying but 01Cno one in support is getting back to me01D.

I have indeed opened another email account with gmail where I can see the I.P. addresses that have accessed the account, I only have two, one at work one at home, I.P. addresses that is. I wont mention them here, but will in the email. I am almost scared to use my computer, I have scanned and scanned and run every virus software that I can find. When I started getting really suspicious, I looked at my details in my email account and there was another primary email that I had never heard of, I thought I would put another email address in, one that I knew they would be able to crack since they seemed to have all my details, within an hour they had compromised it. I will ventilating, still got to convince L.S. and TradeLite that I am who I am, jobs not done.

This has all been so weird, I am literally exhausted. Once again Mr Kerry thank you so much for at least stopping or shutting the account for the minute, I can send the notorised passport, or whatever it is that you will require. One problem they got into my L.R. account and were able to tell L.S. the batch number of the payment I made to them, you see I am not sure if they somehow found my list on my computer. I will be the Queen of diligence now. I was starting to think I lived in a bubble and that no one, absolutely no one could hear me screaming.

Kind wishes - And not to forget all of the other community members here, thankyou for not only your kind words but your advice as well, it will be followed. I am lucky to know of this place.

Eleoura

Hello, Eleoura, BabyHuey here. Sorry to learn of your plight with your Stoic a/c, LR, etc. You should indeed follow Mr. Kerry's advice to try and set things straight; I would suggest one other thing after you install some first-rate software protection such as NORTON 360, which I have installed on the computer I am using at this moment. After each session on the Stoic, for example, you should close your browser, then log on again if you are going to do more surfing on the Web; in addition, you should go into Internet Tools and delete your browsing history, which among other things will remove cookies that may be implanted to track your movements on the web. Once you do have protection in place, you should also do a Quick Scan, perhaps on a daily basis, and a comprehensive scan at least once a week to effectively identify and remove any potential spyware, tracking cookies, etc. When you access the sites containing your investments, you should use the respective virtual keyboards, if available, so keyboard hackers cannot detect your entries. If I think of anything else, I'll pass it on. Keep us posted on your success in rectifying this matter. Good luck to you, continued good investing, and best regards.

Hello Rae, BabyHuey here. Thanks for your remarks, much appreciated. Glad to warn, help or assist. Good investing and best regards.

Hello, folks. Just a brief note here to apprise you of another scam-type email received purporting to be from Liberty Reserve, requesting an update of personal information. The email contained a link to provide that info. If you inadvertently open such an email, it would be wise to run a scan, then go into Internet Tools to delete your browsing history as a safeguard. Liberty Reserve's policy is never to include a link in its emails, so if you see such an email you should be aware that it is phoney. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello, folks. Just a brief message here to apprise all of you about another scam email received purporting to be from Liberty Reserve requesting an update about personal information. Liberty Reserve's policy is never to include links in its emails; the one I received had a link to update requested info. If you inadvertently open such an email, it would be wise to run a scan, then go into Internet Tools and delete your browsing history as a safeguard. It has been about a month since I last received such an email. That's it for now. Best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good Morning,
I had 2 of my investments mature today and have made a very smooth withdrawal of profit. I want to thank S/A for the professional way they have handled this mess with E/B and A/G. Even with the 1/4 profit, I still made 5 times my money invested. The fact that a profit was made is very rare in the HYIP world much less 5 times your money. I have already made new investments and will make more as soon as funds are available in my L/R account. Looking forward to some very good returns in March 2009.
Good bless,
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell. Glad to learn of your new investments and professed optimism with SA; I, too, will be reinvesting and will post results here. Continued good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

ray :

Hello all,

For some reason I still can't open the site. I am reading all your replies on the great benefits you have received from this program, but till now i still can't get the site to start up. Anyone have a clue on why this problem is happening?

Thanks in advance

Ray

Hi, Ray. Just a brief note to tell you that I have been accessing the SafeAtom site consistently with no trouble. It is very rare that the SA site is down. If you have a problem, try using FireFox or Opera Internet browsers, as I understand that some have used those browsers with success. I have no problem just using IE v.7. Best regards from BabyHuey

Hello, folks. Just a brief note here to apprise everyone that today I received another scam-type email purporting to be from Liberty Reserve. It comes in as (No Reply) Liberty Reserve Update, but the body of the email contains a link to update your information. So, beware. The best thing to do is just delete it. If you inadvertently open the email, run a scan to make sure you find and destroy any possible virus, then go into Internet Tools and delete your browsing history. You should do this anyway on a regular basis. That it for now, stay well and good investing. ----BabyHuey.

FiveSInvestment :

One of my top money makers. The best site

I have 500$+200$ from all 3 investment pools. What I planned is I will compounding 100% to 200$ deposit that will make 3900$ after 150 days. And after each month I will withdraw some amount from 500$ deposit by turning off compounding for few days. For example when my 500$ deposit will be 1000$ after 36 days then I will turn off compounding and withdraw 100$ during 5 days. Then again I will turn on compounding. Then again when my deposit will be 2000$ then again I will withdraw another 100$-200$. This way I will cover 200$+500$ of this pool during 1-2 months. And after withdrawing 700$ I will forget these deposits and if SafeAtom is here for 5 months that 10000$ payout from 200$+500$ will be my lottery because I already covered my 700$ from this pool. I did this with all 3 investment pools and I will also cover these 700$ amounts from other programs. So this way you calculate 3 pools it means returns of these deposits will be my lotteries if SafeAtom is here for 5 months.

Good message here, FiveSInvestment. Presenting and explaining your strategy may spark skeptics into placing investments with SA, rather than scare them off. Hopefully, things will go well and the benefits of investing will be realized when maturity comes around. Good luck, and keep posting here for our mutual benefit. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Matt2C, thanks so much for your fine comments. It is good to receive positive, optimistic messages rather than reports of doom and gloom. The HYIP world is full of the latter and puts one in a gloomy mood. Your remarks were uplifting and comforting. I must add so, too, have been the remarks of certain of our fellow members on this forum, especially those of Proof, Paplodell, TH, Rae and others too numerous to mention. I trust we will weather the current storm, regroup, and carry on; I know that is my plan, trust it is yours, too. Stay well, best of luck, and keep on posting here, as will I. ----BabyHuey.

Hi, Matt2C, and thanks for your positive comments. I'm glad to see that you and the other knowledgeable regulars on these forums (Proof, Papa, and Rae, to name a few) are still upbeat on SA, as am I. Perhaps by the time the next maturities come due, SA will be able to permit full payment of interest earned. I hope their decision will help them, rather than hinder them, should the decision result in a goodly number of investors to lose confidence and refrain from further participation in the program, which could be detrimental to all concerned. Stay well, good investing, and best regards. ----BabyHuey

Hello, Proof, Papalodell, Matt2C, and Rae, and to others I have neglected to mention. Thanks for all your cogent remarks about SafeAtom and the decision that SA made to pay 25%, rather than nothing as some HYIPs would have been wont to do. I, too, will again invest with SA. The bulk of my funds will be maturing by 11/16, and I will probably opt to have them withdrawn to PerfectMoney. I'll continue to post comments here and look forward to the remarks of each of you; this forum makes the difference between hope and a solitary sojourn to nowhere! Stay well, good investing and best regards to all from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof, Papalodell, Matt2C, and Rae, and to others I have neglected to mention. Thanks for all your cogent remarks about SafeAtom and the decision that SA made to pay 25%, rather than nothing as some HYIPs would have been wont to do. I, too, will again invest with SA. The bulk of my funds will be maturing by 11/16, and I will probably opt to have them withdrawn to PerfectMoney. I'll continue to post comments here and look forward to the remarks of each of you; this forum makes the difference between hope and a solitary sojourn to nowhere! Stay well, good investing and best regards to all from BabyHuey.

Hello, Proof, Papalodell, Matt2C, and Rae, and to others I have neglected to mention. Thanks for all your cogent remarks about SafeAtom and the decision that SA made to pay 25%, rather than nothing as some HYIPs would have been wont to do. I, too, will again invest with SA. The bulk of my funds will be maturing by 11/16, and I will probably opt to have them withdrawn to PerfectMoney. I'll continue to post comments here and look forward to the remarks of each of you; this forum makes the difference between hope and a solitary sojourn to nowhere! Stay well, good investing and best regards to all from BabyHuey.

Hi, Papalodell. Thanks for your comments. I, too, believe that SA is a great program and will no doubt reinvest with them, for a bird in hand is worth two in the bush, which is what the SA decision for allowing 1/4 of the a/c values to be paid amounts to. By the way, SA advised me that if I wish to do so I can elect to have my funds sent to PM, rather than LR. So, I may opt for that as the PM fees are lower and no exchanger is needed. I'll update here as events unfold. Thanks, again, for your reply. Best regards, BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi Babyhuey I suggest that you resend the verified information again as i did and in a day all was cleared .
from proof

papalodell :

Good morning,
Checking the S/A website this morning, I was really disturbed to see the posting that we are all losing 3/4 value of our accounts because of the altergoldand E/B fiasco. I have been a huge supporter of S/A and took them at their word that we would be able to withdraw to either L/R or P/M with the altergold being down and gone for so long. It is true that we can withdraw with L/R but never imagined at such a loss. For me, I will be losing over 10,000 in expected returns. Will have to do a lot of thinking as to whether I'll re-invest with them or not. This just adds to the long string of loses this year. Only bright spot I can see, it could have been a total lose. Proof, let me know how you end up as I have emails from earlier stating that they would allow withdrawal threw L/R and P/M which said nothing about the lose of exchange.
Have a blessed day,
Papalodell

Hello, again, Papalodell. I, too, am disturbed about this, as I also had an email from SA, advising that my funds would be made available via PM, with no mention of the 75% discount! I have about 15,000 at loss this way, though I wouldn't be losing any principal invested. I have queried them again, asking if the same deal could be effected via PM, rather than LR; at least with PM no exchanger is needed. I have also indicated to SA that I had been planning to reinvest some of my funds with them, and am wondering if they will allow that with no discount when the reinvested funds mature in 150 days. I'll keep the forum posted, as I know you and Proof will, too. Best regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi Babyhuey I suggest that you resend the verified information again as i did and in a day all was cleared .
from proof

Hi, Papalodell, and thanks for your reply. I will try that, but will first query them again. Aside from the problem I describe, do you think STP is reliable, considering what has happened with EB, AG, and the sometimes erratic LR? Best regards, BabyHuey.

Forgeron :

Safeatom is now back online, it seems working fine

Hi, Forgeron, BabyHuey here. I have accessed SafeAtom a few times today, including just a few minutes ago, and had no trouble accessing them at each of the times I logged on. My balances are correct and navigating the site posed no problems. Stay well and good investing.

SteveO :

Hi All What do you think of strict pay? Thanks Steve

Hello, SteveO, BabyHuey here. Here are my two cents' worth about STP. Back in August I opened an a/c with STP, then followed up with sending them documentation to establish my a/c as Bank Verified; that was on August 19th. I have yet to see my status changed from Active to Verified. I have sent them a number of queries via their Support Ticket System, but they do not even confirm that they have received my mailing containing the various documents, other than to state that it takes time to receive mail, but when received it will be processed, etc. At first, STP seemed to be promising, but I now harbor some doubts about them. I beleive either Proof or Papalodell has some experience with STP, and I trust they will expound on this a bit for all concerned. Stay well, good investing, and best regards.

Hi, Proof. I came across the No Risk site and it appears to me to be similar to what EliteMoney offered, with interest rates exceeding 3%/day. Do you think this is a rate that will over time allow No Risk to survive? Are you contemplating a test run? Please share some thoughts when you have time. Thanks so much and best regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Hi Babyhuey and Matthew I could not agree more .
from proof

Thanks, Proof, for your comment, much appreciated. Hope the scam perpetrating nonsense stops and that Alex can effectively block or delete the Francois postings of this nature. Best regards, BabyHuey.

Thanks, again, Matt2C, for offering comment on the scam promoting. Your offering is much appreciated. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Matthew2C :

Baby Huey: I couldn't agree more!!! I am not sure I want to hear anything from someone who has the audacity to promote a SCAMMING site.

Thanks M2C

Thanks, Matt2C for your comments; glad you expressed your two cents' worth as did I. We don't need scam perpetrators on forums of legitimate HYIPs! Stay well and best regards. ----BabyHuey

guyfrancois :

I have tried GMI international Trade Club

and I can Confirm that they are real money making opportunity.

Need invitation code to join ? take this 982071061

Alex, take note, that Guy Francois has placed the same commentary on two other sites that I know of: Tradelite, SafeAtom. He should be blocked from inserting such commentary; you should consider deleting these comments on each and every site, as the site he is touting has been reported as a scam on other monitoring sites. Only comments on The Stoic, a fine, reliable HYIP, should be permitted in this forum. Best regards, BabyHuey.

guyfrancois :

I have heard also about a very powerfull Business club that pay without delay

GMI international trade Club

The invitation code is 982071113

As I have stated earlier on the TRADELITE FORUM, you need to cease and desist, Guy Francois, from advertising a HYIP that has been reported on other monitoring sites as being a scam. This forum is for the legitimate and top notch SafeAtom HYIP and should reflect commentary about SafeAtom, nothing else! Alex, take note on this one, too: try to delete the comments of Guy Francois as they pertain to the aforementioned scam; if possible, assuming such comments continue, try to block Guy Francois from perpetrating this nonsense. ----BabyHuey.

guyfrancois :

Is there someone who is member of this powerfull Business Club:

GMI international trade Club

Invitation code is 982071113

From what I understand about this GMI Intnl Trade Club is that it is being reported as a scam on other monitoring sites; furthermore, this site is for TRADELITE, a legitimate, responsible HYIP, not for advertising scam sites, so I suggest, Guyfrancois, that you cease and desist from trying to encourage people to invest in a nothing organization. Alex, take note; if it is possible, such comments should be blocked or deleted as soon as possible. ----BabyHuey.

Sideralis :

Hi Ray;

Regarding to your question, I just can talk for myself : In the early days of November I will have a Stoic Premium plan running:)

As for VIP investors, I believe there are a couple (maybe more than we can imagine), but forum posting isn't one of their daily tasks for sure.
I can see why: They just don't have THE TIME! (as usually I don't).

Best regards to you all;

Sideralis.

Hi, Sideralis. Just my two cents' worth here. If all goes well, I hope to be a VIP investor in the Stoic by next April, and I will certainly continue to post here for our mutual benefit. It pays to let prospective investors, as well as current investors, know about the individual experiences in any HYIP. If the going is great, then the positive commentary should help the HYIP, as well as the investors, so it is all for the good to get on the stump and let everyone know. Keep on posting and great investing. Best regards, BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good morning,
10 days away from maturity!!! I have to say this has been a great experience so far. I noticed this A.M. that S/A had a note about Altergold and would update us within 2 or 3 days. Hopefully all will be as we have been told. Since I will have to use either Liberty reserve or P/M to withdraw funds who do you recommend, and what have your experiences been with exchange services. Would like to use the best and fastest and most trouble free. I have never used my P/M account so am unsure as to them. I know that L/R has had issues, so looking to you all for guidance.
Proof and Babyhuey, Just a hello.
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell, BabyHuey here. Although I have established accounts with both LR and PM, I have yet to use either of them; however, when my investments mature with SA in less than 3 weeks, I plan to request withdrawal to PM. The PM site seems to be the one that has not suffered any shutdowns, DDoS attacks, etc. While LR, EG and AG have all suffered shutdowns (AG seems to be on the way out according to my judgment), and with EB gone with the wind, it seems that PM s the only smart choice. Its rates are not bad for withdrawal by wire; I believe it is 2% plus $50. My bank will charge me only $10 for an incoming wire, so that is the way I'd go. I will certainly post results in this forum for our mutual benefit. Let us know, too, how you make out. Stay well, Papa, and best regards!

Mr. Neil Kerry. Thanks for your ongoing contributions to this forum. I have been following your remarks and find them to be very informative, and they help make the Stoic stand out from the rest as one of the best, giving it much needed transparency in the world of HYIPs. I anticipate becoming an investor in your program in mid-November and December, and take some comfort in knowing that there is a line of open communication between the investor and Stoic's administration. Thanks for your continued interest and support, and please keep up the good work for mutual benefit. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, Proof and BillD. Yes, I just checked the AlterGold site again and it was not accessible (Gateway error, etc.), though just a few days ago I was able to access the site. I also notice that the SafeAtom site indicates that it cannot accept deposits from AG at this time. Well, I have mentioned in a few comments offered in this forum that SA has informed me that they will allow withdrawals via PerfectMoney if the AG site is not functional at the time investments mature. In the future, even if AG should finally straighten out its act, I think I will only use PM as that seems to be always available, compared to AG and LR, and EG. Thanks for your updates. I will continue to post, too, for our mutual benefit. Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, Proof, and thanks for your timely comments. I would be going into Stoic now if the funds were at hand, but I've got to wait a few more weeks. I plan to start with them in mid-November, and then place another deposit in mid-December. I'll be going with Tradelite, too, at these times. I'll post updates here regularly to provide encouragement for possible skeptics waiting in the wings! Keep in touch, always nice to hear from you. Stay well! ----BabyHuey.

Hi, Matt2C, and thanks for your kind reply. Much appreciated. I'm looking forward to joining the Stoic gang of satisfied investors and will report frequently of my experience! Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, Matt2C, and thanks for your kind reply. Much appreciated. I'm looking forward to joining the Stoic gang of satisfied investors and will report frequently of my experience! Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, Matt2C, and thanks for your kind reply. Much appreciated. I'm looking forward to joining the Stoic gang of satisfied investors and will report frequently of my experience! Stay well and best regards from BabyHuey.

nataa :

Is AG fully functional now?

Hello, Nataa. As far as I know, and according to the SafeAtom site, which I last checked this morning(will be doing so in a few minutes, again), AG's API is not fuctional with SafeAtom, but I understand it is functional with other HYIP sites. You can query SA's Admin. via its Support Ticket system to receive a personal answer. I have investments maturing in mid-November, and SA has advised me that it will allow withdrawals via PerfectMoney if the AG system is not functional at that time. I have received emails from AG periodically, advising that they expect the system to be up within 72 hours, but this has never come to pass. I seriously doubt that this is going to happen. If you find out otherwise, please post here for all to see. Thanks, good investing, and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hello Alex and Proof. I, too, received the phoney email purporting to be from Liberty Reserve. I read it and then deleted it, never clicking on the link contained therein. LR states in its website that it never sends any emails with links, so even though I have an a/c that has never been funded, I thought the best action was to just delete it. I hope all who may receive such emails will do the same; by the way, should someone click on the link inadvertently, they would do best to go into Tools and delete all cookies, etc., then do a scan of their computer with a virus/spyware program such as Norton or MacAfee. Anyone with those protective software packages should do that frequently. By the way, one more thing: just today, on one of my laptops, I decided to do a "quick scan," with Norton 360; lo and behold, the program found 16 Tracking Cookies which, it said posed no threat, but were present to track my web surfing! They were all deleted. That's my two cents' worth! Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, Papalodell and Matt2C, here at the Stoic Forum. Great comments and very encouraging to say the least. I have been planning to invest in the Stoic and should be able to do so either by late November or early December. I'm looking forward to this one very much and hope and trust that it will continue with much success for a long time. Stay well and best regards.----BabyHuey

Hello Proof and Papalodell. Just wanted to say "Hi," and wish you well. It was nice to read your comments, Papa, about SafeAtom, and same for you, Matthew2C. I, too, have a number of deposits maturing in 23 and 27 days, respectively, bringing me to mid-November, and I plan to redeposit about half with SafeAtom; the rest will be taken out for living needs. This is one GREAT program and long may it live with much success! Each of you stay well, continued good fortune in the HYIP world, and have a good weekend! Best regards from BabyHuey.

BILLD. :

Hi, BabyHuey Thanks for your respone. I used Getmoney in Quebec and my bank charged me $35 because it is in Canada and considered to be international. I've invested in a few of these programs and as of today I have not been able to withdraw a dime or make any money untill I found Safeatom and now the problem with EB and AG keeps me from withdrawing any money. Whats going to happen next ????
Thanks BillD.

Hello, again. Thanks for your feedback. With respect to SafeAtom, I queried administration a few days ago and received a reply to the effect that if AG is not functional at the time my investments mature, which is in mid-November, they will allow withdrawals to be effected through PerfectMoney (PM) and/or Liberty Reserve (LR). I have an a/c with both PM and LR, and will opt for PM in the event AG will not be available for transmittal of my funds next month. I do understand, however, that other investment sites are functional with AG, so the problem appears to be only with SafeAtom; but SA is willing to accommodate its investors, as it has done last August when the e-Bullion site went down. SA allowed withdrawals through AG at that time. My original investments with SA were done via EB, so that is why they are now set up for transfer to AG at maturity. Keep the forum posted. I will be submitting here regularly as I have news to report. Best regards. ----BabyHuey

BILLD. :

Hello, babyhuey & Proof, Thanks for the update on Safeatom. I have an account with LR so that would be great. Who do you use as an exchanger for LR. My bank charges $35 to do a international wire transfer.
Thats what was niece about using EB it was only $15 and you didn't need a seperate exchanger. Do you know of any exchangers in the US.
Best regards BillD.

Hi, BillD. Good to hear from you. I have never used LR, though I established an a/c but never funded it. My investments with SafeAtom were funded via e-Bullion, and I transferred funds to EB via a wire transfer through my bank, which only cost me $20 per wire. I had once considered using GETMONEY as an exchanger to use LR. GETMONEY is located in Quebec, but since I wasn't planning to use LR, considering all the downtime problems it has had in the past, I never established an a/c with GETMONEY. I am planning to reinvest a sizeable portion of my maturing funds back into SafeAtom, and expect to withdraw the balance via AG or PM, so no exchanger will be necessary. I will withdraw via bank wire. Keep the forum posted as to your experiences over time. We can all learn from one another. Best regards and good investing! ----BabyHuey

DelPiero :

hello everyone,
i want make a compound in this site how to make it??
n how much deposit to make a compound.... thx
^^

Hello, DelPiero, and welcome. If you check the deposits page on the Stoic website it will show you the different levels of investment and what the minimum requirements are. You can select compounding for any amount indicated as your deposit. Be aware that if you select 100% compounding, none of your accrued funds will be available until end of term, which is 190 business days for each and every deposit made. Feel free to pose more questions. I will try to fill in the blanks for you, but you should read the FAQ section on the website, as that should answer most, if not all, of your questions. Stay well, good investing, and best regards. ----BabyHuey

Hello, Proof. Nice to hear from you. Glad to learn that you have been able to use AG with other sites; so, it appears that it is only with SA that poses a problem with the API. I hope this will be rectified in a short time. SafeAtom appears to be willing to divert funds to PM or LR if AG is not fully functional, so at least there will be alternatives available. I'll update here again as necessary. Stay well and best regards. ----BabyHuey

Hello, Rae, BillD, Proof and Papalodell, BabyHuey here. Rather than an individual reply to each, for the sake of time I am leaving this short message. I received a reply from SafeAtom to the query I made re the functioning of AG's API. Since I, too, have funds maturing in mid-November, I asked how certain of those funds could be withdrawn if the AG site was not up to par. SafeAtom will allow funds to be withdrawn via PM or LR if such is the case, specifically if "AlterGold is closed." Jet has indicated that payment via AG was made in other investments, so perhaps we also will be able to draw funds via AG, too; perhaps it is the case that AG's interface with SafeAtom is the only one with the problem. This remains to be seen, but SafeAtom seems to be willing to make an accommodation in this regard. Hope this info is helpful. Best regards and good investing!

Hi, Proof and Papalodell. Here is an update for you re AlterGold's API. I received a reply from Zorg, of SafeAtom, to the effect that although the AG site is up, the API function is not at this time. No mention of when all might be well. No deposits or withdrawals can be effected yet. I am going to query again about the possibility of SA diverting any withdrawals to PerfectMoney, as they elected to do back in August when EB was closed down. I'll keep you posted. Best regards, BabyHuey.

BILLD. :

Hi everybody this is my first post here. I've been reading this post for a few months and I have a deposit with Safeatom that will mature in 29 days. Does anybody know if Altergold interface is working yet?? Has anybody made a withdraw from Safeatom to Altergold with any success.

Welcome, BILLD. I noticed that this was your first posting. Glad you're in SafeAtom. Today, I received a reply to a Support ticket question I posed to Administration re the fact that the AG site is up, but as to the API function, it is not. Zorg, of SafeAtom advised that neither deposits nor withdrawals can be effected through SafeAtom at this time. No mention of when the API will be functional. I am going to query further, asking if SA can allow us to withdraw to PerfectMoney in lieu of AG, as when they decided to allow use of AG in lieu of e-Bullion earlier this year when the EB site went down on August 5. I have funds maturing in mid-November, so I will certainly have an interest in effecting a withdrawal of a portion of my funds, but will reinvest approx. half with SA. Anything I learn I will post here for all to read. Good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, Otrogold. I read your comment about the Stoic's way of paying principal, but your comments do not comport with Stoic's policy as outlined in its FAQs. Stoic states that it returns the principal at the end of the term, not in the manner that you describe. Can you clarify and amplify on what you have stated for the mutual benefit of all? I do not yet have a deposit with Stoic, but anticipate doing so within a month, so my knowledge about the Stoic policy is limited to what it states in its website. Thanks very much for your reply. Best regards from BabyHuey.

proof :

Well Babyhuey that would be a bit of good news considering all that is rocking the US and the world lately.

So keep us posted.

from proof

Hi, Proof. BabyHuey here. Good to hear from you again. The AG site is up, but still no news on the SA site as to the functioning of the API feature. If no news is forthcoming about the API by week's end, I am going to contact SA via its Support Ticket and ask about it. I have a number of deposits maturing in mid-November, so I'd like to know if certain of the funds I wish to withdraw will indeed be withdrawable via AG. I'll post results here for all to see. Continued good investing, and best regards.

rae :

Baby Huey,

$250 is the size of my investment, small, but am preparing to do a larger one as soon as this one pans out. Good luck to you and I will stay in touch.--Rae

Hi, Rae. Good to hear from you. Glad to learn of your investment. Did you select the 20 day or 60 day term? I, too, plan to make an initial investment of $250, hopefully next week, during mid-week. Next month I anticipate a deposit of $3000, but in both cases I will be selecting the 60 day term to maximize the return. Will post here regularly to advise of results. Good luck to you and best regards.--BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Hi Babyhuey & Proof,
Has anyone heard from or received update on altergold? Been down a lot longer than was stated.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell. Nice to hear from you again. Although it is not yet reflected in the "News" on the SafeAtom site, I have accessed the AlterGold site just moments ago without a problem. Navigating the site appears to be normal, so perhaps AG's problems have been rectified. The last email I received from AG, about 10 days ago, give or take a day, indicated they needed another 3 or 4 days to make the necessary changes to rectify matters. It did take them more than 3 or 4 days, but the site is now back and I trust the API function will be working so that withdrawals will be processed. Anything I learn I will share here, and I know you will do so as well. Continued good investing and best regards from BabyHuey.

papalodell :

Good morning,
I am upset to see the negative comments. When one signs up with the Stoic, one must agree to the terms of investment which gives full disclosure of program. At this point one should make an informed decision as to take the risk or not. During the due diligence the forums should be read along with other information. If done properly, one would see that Mr. Kerry is very active and responsive to all the members which rare in the world of HYIP. With this said, why cry foul now when no wrong has been done?
This is one of the best investments we have and many of us plan to reinvest much more for along as the Stoic allows. Mr. Kerry, thank you for being such a part of this forum and the great job you do for us the investors.
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell. I fully second what you have written. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from Baby Huey.

rae :

Thanks, Baby Huey for your feed back, I invested in the 20 day program which will expire on Oct 23, I guess there isn't a lot to report on until then, so I will report when paid.

Hi, Rae, thanks for your response. Glad you invested with TL to help keep a good program going for mutual benefit! I'm looking forward to an investment with them this month, albeita small one, about $250, then a larger one in mid-November. I'll keep posting as we progress. Good luck and best regards, Baby Huey.

Hello to all, in particular Proof, Rusty South and Glo. I second your totally correct comments on The Stoic and Mr. Kerry's frequent and reassuring comments. I anticipate an investment into this plan during mid-November and will post results here. This is a great HYIP and we can certainly do without the barrage of somewhat negative comments flowing from skeptical naysayers. Best regards, BabyHuey.

rae :

Thank you babyhuey,

One more question, perhaps you or anyone else has an answer. If I deposit in L/R once I qualify for for the debit card, can I withdrawal L/R funds through the card or do I have to take it through the L/R account and out again?

Hi, Rae, Baby Huey back again. Thanks for your reply. Re your question about the Tradelite Debit Card and L/R. First, I have an L/R a/c but have never used it and really don't want to do so. With Tradelite, as I understand it, you would not have to go through L/R to fund the card; you can do so directly from your a/c with Tradelite, and at no charge, which is the best part! Check the Tradelite page through your a/c member's page for more info on the Debit Card policies. It seems like a real good deal and ideal, too, for the convenience and at no charge to obtain and fund the card. To qualify for the card, as of October 15, as I recall, you have to have an active a/c for a minimum of 30 days and an a/c balance of at least $2500 USD. Hope this info helps. Good luck with your investments and keep us posted, as I will do, too. Best regards!

rae :

Are we ever going to get to talking about Tradelite again? How well have their debit cards been working? Does anyone no if you can have more than one account with them?

Hi, Rae, Baby Huey Here. Hope your HYIP experience is going well. I just wanted to offer my two cents' worth here. I plan to invest with Tradelite in mid-November, when I have funds maturing in SafeAtom. Some will stay with SA, but I plan to invest $3000 with Tradelite. From what I have learned over the past 7 months studying HYIPs and some investing, it appears that Tradelite, like SA, is a top-notch operation offering reliability and stability. I make these comments here to try and allay any fears some of the skeptics have expressed writing here in this and SA's forum. The negative commentaries they have offered are out of place and far from reality, based on what has transpired over the past few months. They should be able to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, and not lump all HYIPs in the same trash-bin category. To try and answer your question about how many accounts one can open with Tradelite, from what I understand you can open only one, but you can make many deposits within the limitations of each contract; i.e., 20 days, 40 days, 60 days. I am interested in the 60 days, which has a deposit limitation of $10,000. In the aggregate, there is a $25,000 limit; so when your combined deposits reach $25k, you cannot deposit further until some of your investments mature, taking your aggregate balance below the $25k threshhold. Perhaps others, especially Proof and Papalodell will offer additional info here. Hope this helps you somewhat. Best regards and best of luck in investing!

papalodell :

Good morning,
Rusty South, paplodell here. I read that you were close to end of term with safeatom, as I am 21 days away. Have you completed, and if so have you found an alternative since alter gold is still down? I was hoping they would be back up by this weekend, but have seen no news as to what is going on. Is anyone else near the end of term, or had any contact with S/A as to alter gold?
Thanks,
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell, Baby Huey here. I don't know if you've received any emails from AlterGold, but I received one earlier this week, and had received one about 10 days earlier, to the effect that they had to work on their Servers and expected to be offline another 48 to 72 hours. My investments with them will be maturing in mid-November, so I hope AG will be in operation by then, but from what Proof has written, it seems that he had no problem in receiving his matured funds. Next month I will be reinvesting about half of what is maturing, and the balance will take out to use and reinvest some with Tradelite. I'll post updates here about my matured funds. Stay well and best regards.

Alex S. (moderator) :

babyhuey,
The % shown is total return on deposited amount. When you put $1,000 in, and received back $980, you are (close but) not yet in profit.
Basically, the "definition" for SA is just about to change to "In Profit", or "Prifitable"..., in fact in a day or two from today.

About Profile part, there are few buttons missing at the moment, due to some upgrades we are (pretty much constantly) having done. But, removing programs should work and all you need to do, is login into your HYIP.COM account. Then, in addition to always visible tabs (HYIPs, Premium, Profitable, New), you should also see an extra tab with green-colored text "My HYIPs". Click that and you will be transferred to another page, were you will see options to remove your HYIPS.

I guess, I might as well remind how to add hyips into that list.
To do that, one has to login, then while looking through the list on the main page, click on the link "Add to My Hyips", for any listed program and it will show up in your profile.

Thanks, Alex, for your reply clarifying the policy re PROFITABLE VS. NOT IN PROFIT. I timed my reply just right, it seems, as you've indicated that in two days it will read PROFITABLE. Thanks, too, for your comments on removing HYIPs from the member's profile page. I need to delete all the HYIPs that have gone south over the past few months.

Your quick response, time and effort in reply are much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
Best regards, BabyHuey.

Hello, folks, and Alex, too. Alex, I have a question or two: How come the Rating for SafeAtom still shows that is is NOT IN PROFIT? The ROI shows 98%, which I believe translats to a return of over $4000 at this point on an investment of $4110. The ROI of my few accounts at this time is at just under 700% for a $7000 profit. Shouldn't you delete that term to IN PROFIT[B]? My second question is this: how does one delete HYIPs from the "My Personal HYIPs" section on our Profile page? Thanks for your time and attention in these two areas. My interest in seeing SA listed as IN PROFIT, as opposed to NOT IN PROFIT is to allay anyone's fears, particularly those of Newbies, thinking that SA is heading south. The NOT IN PROFIT blurb might be misinterpreted.

Good investing and best regards to all. ----Baby Huey

Hi, Proof. Thanks for your reply to my short blurb. Much appreciated. Stay well.
Hello, Dapper. Glad the info I supplied was of some import to you. Good luck with your investments; hopefully, you'll be satisfied with SA, as it seems to be one of the few reliable HYIPs.

Hello to all who may read this. I just wanted to offer an update on the ROI on my SA accounts. The HYIP.com site has for the past few weeks shown a "Not in Profit" ROI percentage, at this time at 75%. Previously, HYIP.com had shown a substantial ROI of over 1000%. In case anyone reads this "Not in Profit" blurb, I wanted to let all know that the ROI on my accounts as of this writing is at 359.88% and most definitely IN PROFIT! Someone reading what is on the site may get the wrong impression, and I wouldn't want a great program like SA to suffer because of it. That all, folks. Stay well and in good luck with your investments.----BabyHuey

Just my two cents' worth here. I've had no problem accessing the SafeAtom site, or navigating it. Everything is A-OK. Best regards, BabyHuey.

lordxan :

I think this one should be @ the top of the list for 2 reasons:

1. Reliability of pauouts and the site is Never down too lone, if ever and you can ask for your money back at any time; and

2. at 2% daily that an't bad at all

If you add both of the arguments up Safe-Atom is the #1 investment option at the moment. PS a small third point here is they do not invest in forex and if you google search their address they are in the city they say they are and it appears to be an actual office in a business district, vice Fundslife for example only showing in a farmers feild in Quebec...Don't know about any of you but I'll invest with Safe Atom as my #1 option at the moment...

PS ALEX, can you PLEASE add WOIP to the list, ont high returns but it IS relaiable, that I have done my homework on and I don't know about any one else but I'll take low returns and relability over High unrelable returnes that vanish into thin air in a few days/weeks mos....

Hello, Lordxan, BabyHuey here. I just want to second the motion on all that you've said about SA. They definitely are the best site at this time. In addition to what you've said, I would simply add that they are excellent on customer service and communication. I have never failed to receive a reply to all my queries, and as you know they are proactive as evidenced by their frequent news flashes on the home page. Incidentally, I have been in contact with SA via their Support Ticket System, and I've had a sequence of replies to my query about having SA establish SolidTrust Pay on their site as a payment processor. The last communication I received was that they will consider it. I've already established an a/c with STP and am awaiting status upgrade to Bank Verified. Will keep the Forum posted as to how things go. Good investing and best regards.

Hi, folks. Please allow me a moment to inject my two cents' worth here. I had hopes that SAInvest was going to be a promising program, especially so for all of the positive comments that have been written; however, my opinion of them has changed and fortunately between Barb and I we only have $40 at stake. I have sent emails a number of times, inquiring about reinvesting our meagre sum until we can set up another payment processor. We've never received an answer, though when I first queried SA prior to investing, I did receive a reply from James Stone, Panama. From what I've read here in the past two weeks or so, in the wake of EB's demise, SA will not allow withdrawal of funds to any payment processor other than the original one used to fund the investment. Compare that policy to SafeAtom! As far as I'm concerned, I will not consider any further investments with SAInvest. SafeAtom, Elite Money and Bristol Capital appear to be the best of the lot at this time, and I have also (for those who may be interested in following suit) established an a/c with SolidTrust Pay and am in the process of becoming Bank Verified to facilitate ACH fund transfers. That's about it for now. Good luck to all and best regards. ----BabyHuey

flashy :

fantastic site, i will earn much money from this site

What kind of an illogical statement is that? You have made one contribution to post on this Forum, and you make a statement with all certainty that you "will earn much money from this site." Are you for real, or are you a principal in the HYIP whose virtues you are extolling via your illogical remark. If you were for real, you would make some small test investments and report on the outcome. If you are a phoney, which is what you come across as, stay away, go back in your hole and stay there! Best regards, BabyHuey.

TH :

Uh-oh. Anybody get this message when trying to load site?

Index of /
cgi-bin/
Apache/2.2.9 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.6 Server at www.ffg-traders.biz Port 80

This has NEVER been a good sign, I don't care how good the program might have been in the past - This is my cue to forget about the money I lost and move on.

Hi, TH. Yes, just a few minutes ago (7pm EDST) I tried to log on to check investments (what investments?) and the site was nowhere to be seen! Is this the end of FFG, or a minor pause? I hope the latter and not the former, but no sense being morose over this. As you state, "...forget...and move on." Good luck in prospecting and investing. I'm going to consider Bristol Capital, and AGI Club. I've got to do some more research. Best regards from BabyHuey.

Hi, folks. BabyHuey here just offering a tidbit of info. In the event no one has yet noticed, the GOLDFINGER website has never been shut down. I have accessed it a number of times, and all links on it appear to be functional. Take a look at the testimonials on it, too. Just thought all of you might be interested to learn of this. Good investing, and best regards.

Buchy :

This company is sending me spam emails: see below

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Please note that in all e-mails from Liberty Reserve we will:
Always address you by your first name.
Never send you any links or attached files.
Never ask you to send us your password and/or login PIN.
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Dear Cindy,

You have received a payment to your account U8898254:

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Batch: 4501728
From Account: U3952397
Amount: $120.00
Memo: Plan B Payment - 4N1Traders.com

For information and support please e-mail us at support@libertyreserve.com

Thank you.
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This a real Forex Trading company! Paying for nearly two months already.
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I find it hard to trust them if they are doing this.

Hello, Buchy. BabyHuey here. Just a quick note to tell you, and all others who may happen upon these remarks, that I, too, have received two of these emails--both identical in every respect--just a short time ago this evening. I forwarded them to Liberty Reserve, suggesting to them that they are most likely scams, as they have links and LR states they never send links in emails. I thought other prospective and current investors should know that these cyber scams are floating around, so be on guard. By the way, after I sent these emails to LR, I deleted all cookies, etc. from my laptop, scanned the files, etc. to be as certain as possible that there were no viruses left behind. I suggest all do the same. Good luck investing, and Best regards.

Thanks, Time&Chance, for your comments on Solid Trust Pay. I have never heard of them. I don't think SAInvest lists them on the website. Do you know if any other HYIPs honor that service? How long did an ACH transfer take? The STP site says it could take 7 days. Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated! Best regards, BabyHuey.

Hello, again, folks. SD, take note of this, too. In my email a/c just moments ago, I found an email from Dave Becker of SafeAtom, advising that when I wish to withdraw profits to AlterGold USD I simply have to click on the special link stating that, then indicate the a/c number on the next page. I had inquired about the protocol that SA was going to follow in effecting these withdrawals from EB-sourced funds. This is just one more example of SA's top-notch operation; they respond to queries. I hope this news helps others, at least in inspiration that SA is working for our interests as investors in its business. Best regards, BabyHuey.

Hi, SD, and all fellow investors. I wanted to offer SD some feedback on the concerns expressed re AG. I opened my AG a/c as BUSINESS, only because AG has no balance limit for it. If one needs to transfer a sum well above $1000, you cannot do it as a PERSONAL client, according to the AG site. I don't have any sums coming due with SA until the last week of November, but I wanted to open the AG a/c well in advance as I contemplated SA utilizing AG for EB-sourced funds. My November maturing funds were transmitted to SA via EB, but my EB a/c only has $9.74 in it, so if that is ultimately lost or delayed for years! I won't be hurting, just inconvenienced. I still believe EB's operation was the best of all payment processors and hope the firm can one day again open for business. I applaud SA, though, for its far and away top-notch professionalism in the way it has handled this irritating situation. They will be getting a lot more business from me in the very near future. Best of luck to all of you, and please keep the feedback coming for all to share! Best regards, BabyHuey.

Hello, folks. Here is an update: the matured investment I had on 8/6, which got hung up because of the EB fiasco has now been reinvested with FFG. I was able to place it back into my a/c, then reinvested it for 9 weeks. I tried calling FFG at their indicated number in Delaware, to no avail. I let it ring about 20 times, but no pickup on the other end. I trust that FFG will come up with a plan they will soon announce for the EB-sourced investments many of us have. They are not answering emails or "Contact Us" messages via the website, and they don't answer the phone. All we can do is wait it out. Meanwhile, good luck and good investing. ----Baby Huey

Hi, again, folks. I just left a lengthy comment on the FFG Forum, but I wanted to state one thing here. I think it's great that SA has announced that it will have info for us on its website on 8/10. It is a very good move on SA's part to be so proactive about such a matter, to inspire investor confidence. I'm looking forward to learning what steps they are implementing to facilitate fund transfers for us. I have established an AlterGold (AG) account to specifically use for SA. Do any of you more experienced investors think that SA will be able to modify its operation to allow existing investments to be credited to AG rather than to EB if EB was the original source of the funds? Any comments on this or any other aspect of this EB fiasco are greatly appreciated. I was really fond of the EB website, operation and their speed in consummating transactions; I am totally shocked and disappointed, to say the least, that the EB rug has been pulled out from under our feet! Best of luck and regards to all! ----BabyHuey.

Hi folks. I just wanted to contribute my two cents worth. What I have to report may strike a familiar note with many of you during this unexpected problem with EB. I had a matured investment on 8/6 for just under $3000. I had requested a withdrawal to EB (not knowing about the EB problem at the time!) as I was going to withdraw most of the funds to use for necessary purposes. FFG stated in the email I received that the withdrawal would take place in about 6 hours, and I would receive another email when that was accomplished. Well, I have never received that email so I am assuming that my withdrawal never went through, but said funds have not been placed back into my a/c. When I learned about the EB fiasco, I sent a Contact Form message to FFG, for which I still haven't received a reply, asking them to cancel the withdrawal and put the funds back into my a/c. A few hours ago, after establishing new accounts with Pecunix and AlterGold (the latter to use with SafeAtom), I updated my user Profile with FFG, entering my Pecunix a/c no. I then sent another Contact Form message, as well as a regular email to payments@ffg-traders.biz reiterating what I had written on 8/6, but including a request that they attempt to indicate on their website's HomePage a message advising investors what steps they are taking to allow funds to become available in the absence of EB, and to try to apply my credit to the Pecunix a/c or, at the least, my a/c with FFG. Do any of you more experienced investors know what might transpire from this fiasco? Is it feasible to think that any matured investments that were to go to EB can indeed be applied to another a/c, such as Pecunix? Some of you are probably going through the same thing; I'd appreciate your comments. In the meantime, continued good luck investing, and best regards.

Hi, folks. Just an update from me. I had just under $3k maturing today. I requested a withdrawal to my EB a/c, and the FFG site said transfer would be accomplished within 6 hours. As I write this, it is not yet 6 hours since I requested the transfer, but in the past transfers have take less than that time window. No problem accessing the site or navigating through it. I am concerned for the moment about EB, though as the site has been inaccessible for well over a day. Will post again when I have something to report. Best regards from Baby Huey.

Alex S. (moderator) :

Probably temporary issues. System usually works well.

Hi, Alex. With respect to the concerns of Time & Chance, I simply want to advise that in the past 24 hours we've had two (my wife & I) transactions transferring funds to our EB accounts, and both went through without a hitch, and we received the customary email advices as well. We still believe that EB is the absolute best in the field of e-currency. Best regards from Baby Huey.

Hello, all. Just wanted to let you know that I, too, just moments ago at approx. 3:40pm EDST, in CT, logged in with unusal speed, and navigation between pages in my a/c was the swiftest I've ever experienced. So, evidently FFG has indeed upgraded its site, Also, my funds were transferred with no problem to EB. Good investing, and stay well! Best regards from Baby Huey.

Hi, folks. I just learned about the tragedy that has befallen the wife of Mr. Fayed, manager of the EB office in Camarillo. My heart goes out to the family. If anyone is interested in reading the newspaper article about this, you can do so by accessing www.Venturacountystar.com. I did a search via Google when I read about this in the Forum, and so I'm sharing it here. As far as EB goes, I am awaiting a transfer of $62.56 to go into my EB a/c from FFG early yesterday. I've received confirmation from FFG via email that the transfer was made from my a/c, but it was to take about 6 hours more to show up at EB, and I'm supposed to receive another email from FFG; of course I should also receive one from EB when the funds are posted to the a/c. I'll post updates here so we can all share the news of daily operations. Stay well and safe, and best regards from Baby Huey.

Hello, once again, folks. Thought I might offer an update. The site is responding very slowly, perhaps at times, thought, a bit faster, so maybe heavy traffic has something to do with it. I checked one of my new deposits set at 90% comp., and the 10% was in the a/c, which I transferred to EB. All else with my deposits is okay, up-to-date. I hope FFG does make the necessary changes to provide quicker access and navigation between pages. Best regards and good investing to all--Baby Huey.

virg :

I'm new around but someone knows why the interest rates here are 0,23% - 0,63% and on their site they are 3,5%-9,5%. What?s wrong?

Hi, Virg. Just happened upon your query about the rates. The reason the rates appear to be different is because of the time period they represent; for example, using the 9.5% the term is for 15 days. If you divide .095 by 15 days you get .006333333, which translates to $316.66665 interest on $50,000 for one day; multipy that out by the 15 days and you get total interest of $4,750 (rounded up) for the term. So, what you are seeing is the daily rate vs. the term rate, so of course the term rate would be the higher figure. Hope this helps. Good luck and best regards from Baby Huey.

TH :

Thanks for responding so quickly, proof. The reason I asked is that it has been more than 8 hours now and that's unusual. But, it is Sunday - so I won't be "worried" until at least tomorrow. But considering ffg's track record, I have no doubts the withdrawal will be processed soon.

Hi, TH. I'm certainly happy to learn that many investors have nothing but good things to say about FFG, as I've had nothing but good feelings about this HYIP since first becoming involved with HYIPs. This past week I have had two maturing deposits and, as previously reported, both of them were handled without problems and within reasonable time frames. The largest of the two, just under $2000, was transferred to my EB a/c, for subsequent transfer to my wife's EB a/c, and transfer to her FFG a/c for the weekly plan, and this was accomplished in less than 2 hours; the second one was never withdrawn out of FFG, but reinvested from the daily plan to the weekly plan. With all the negative feedback flying around about other HYIPs that leave much to be desired, FFG is a breath of fresh air that we all hope will be around for a long time to come. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from Baby Huey.

TH :

Thanks for responding so quickly, proof. The reason I asked is that it has been more than 8 hours now and that's unusual. But, it is Sunday - so I won't be "worried" until at least tomorrow. But considering ffg's track record, I have no doubts the withdrawal will be processed soon.

Hi, TH. I'm certainly happy to learn that many investors have nothing but good things to say about FFG, as I've had nothing but good feelings about this HYIP since first becoming involved with HYIPs. This past week I have had two maturing deposits and, as previously reported, both of them were handled without problems and within reasonable time frames. The largest of the two, just under $2000, was transferred to my EB a/c, for subsequent transfer to my wife's EB a/c, and transfer to her FFG a/c for the weekly plan, and this was accomplished in less than 2 hours; the second one was never withdrawn out of FFG, but reinvested from the daily plan to the weekly plan. With all the negative feedback flying around about other HYIPs that leave much to be desired, FFG is a breath of fresh air that we all hope will be around for a long time to come. Stay well, good investing, and best regards from Baby Huey.

TH :

Now I'm fed up. I went to re-login to L/R - and got this message:

Processing request error
There was en error while processing your request.

Please notify the support team about this error and try to a previous page and execute request with other params.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

- This is a message I receive so much I've memorized it, as well as in the 2 other languages it is written in. As soon as I can, I will be transferring my funds to another e-currency.

...and it ALWAYS seems to happen on a day when I'm expecting a relatively large withdrawal...

Hi, TH. Sorry to hear of the seemingly continuous problems with LR. I would suggest e-Bullion as your best choice. I have used them exclusively and have never had a problem They respond to queries, and you can use their BullHorn Message Center to communicate with them, instead of using your email address. EB is excellent in all ways, and from what I've learned about the other e-currency services, they are far and away the best. In fact, I won't consider investing with any organization that does not accept EB. No EB, no Invest. Good luck in whatever you choose, and best regards.

TH :

Now I'm fed up. I went to re-login to L/R - and got this message:

Processing request error
There was en error while processing your request.

Please notify the support team about this error and try to a previous page and execute request with other params.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

- This is a message I receive so much I've memorized it, as well as in the 2 other languages it is written in. As soon as I can, I will be transferring my funds to another e-currency.

...and it ALWAYS seems to happen on a day when I'm expecting a relatively large withdrawal...

Hi, TH. Sorry to hear of the seemingly continuous problems with LR. I would suggest e-Bullion as your best choice. I have used them exclusively and have never had a problem They respond to queries, and you can use their BullHorn Message Center to communicate with them, instead of using your email address. EB is excellent in all ways, and from what I've learned about the other e-currency services, they are far and away the best. In fact, I won't consider investing with any organization that does not accept EB. No EB, no Invest. Good luck in whatever you choose, and best regards.

TH :

Now I'm fed up. I went to re-login to L/R - and got this message:

Processing request error
There was en error while processing your request.

Please notify the support team about this error and try to a previous page and execute request with other params.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

- This is a message I receive so much I've memorized it, as well as in the 2 other languages it is written in. As soon as I can, I will be transferring my funds to another e-currency.

...and it ALWAYS seems to happen on a day when I'm expecting a relatively large withdrawal...

Hi, TH. Sorry to hear of the seemingly continuous problems with LR. I would suggest e-Bullion as your best choice. I have used them exclusively and have never had a problem They respond to queries, and you can use their BullHorn Message Center to communicate with them, instead of using your email address. EB is excellent in all ways, and from what I've learned about the other e-currency services, they are far and away the best. In fact, I won't consider investing with any organization that does not accept EB. No EB, no Invest. Good luck in whatever you choose, and best regards.

Hi, folks. Here's another update. Today, another of my deposits matured (310.72 w/comp.) and I found it in my a/c balance, at which time I promptly reinvested it as a new deposit. All went like clockwork, no problems. Hope these updates help to calm any concerns. FFG is top notch. Hope all continues as good as it has been. Good luck and best regards from Baby Huey.

garyghouri :

keep getting this cannot access

504 Gateway Time-out

If you are receiving this response, the host server is not responding to requests from ourproxy.
Please contact support for the website you are trying to reach.
Thank you.

Hi, Gary. I've been trying several times this morning to access FFG, but succeed in only reaching the HomePage; cannot get into my a/c. The site appears to be under heavy DDOS attack. This is only the second time I've experienced this. The last time this happened, I waited until late evening, then was able to access the site in normal fashion. I usually access the site in the wee AM hours and have no problem. Best regards from Baby Huey.

Hello, folks. I thought you would all appreciate an update. Yesterday I had one deposit maturing, just under 2,000, with compounding. I asked for a withdrawal to my EB a/c; all went like clockwork! No problems. Today, I transferred 3200 to Barb's EB a/c, then on to her FFG a/c. All went well. Received my referral amount, too. The FFG site is simply the best; from what I've seen and learned about over the past three months, this is the best of the best. Best regards and best of luck to all. I'll continue to keep you posted so we can share good news! BabyHuey

telessuor :

Today I didn't get to access safeatom site.
Someone had also this problem?
Telessuor

Hello, Telessuor. Just to ease your mind, I accessed SafeAtom early this morning, approx. 2am EDST, and again just moments ago (12:40pm) without a problem. It's possible the site may have been down for some routine maintenance when you made your attempt. On the HomePage, SafeAtom indicates they are up over 99% of the time, and I believe it. The site comes up lightning fast each time I access it. Good luck and best regards from BabyHuey.

Thanks, Alfa, for your reply to my query. Glad to learn further that people are experiencing good results with SAIN. I'll post results as I invest with them. Continued success, and best regards from Baby Huey.

Taz :

Hi babyhuey,

I have a $200 test in the 15-day plan maturing on 27-07-08 and in the process I didn't see any trigger or check box for compounding (I surely would have opted "in"!!).

I also didn't see any option to have the return credited on a daily basis so I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs - NOT!! - waiting for the 27th to come so's I can report on the "complete experience". Since I see nothing from them daily the funds are anticipated to be credited to me on maturity.

Their responses to my email queries have been good so far.

Taz

Hello, Taz. Thanks so much for your reply to my query. I have an email query to SAIN, hoping to have an answer tomorrow. Will keep you posted. Good luck and best regards, BabyHuey.

Hi, folks. I'm contemplating an investment with SainInvest, but I'd appreciate hearing from anyone with experience with this organization, as I have a couple of questions. I note on the website that they pay after the term, various rates pertaining to the term, of course; however, do they pay interest on a daily basis, and then return your principal at term's end, or do they pay the entire balance at term's end? Also, do they compound? On the calculator for them at the HYIP.com site, it indicates compounding, but the SAIN website doesn't mention anything about compounding. Many thanks for your time and effort in replying. Much appreciated! Good luck to all of you, and usual best regards from Baby Huey.

papalodell :

GOOD EVENING,
Just made request for withdrawal, notified by ebullion within 20 minutes transfer of $127.03 posted to account. Thank you FFG for your excellent service. Keep up the good work.
Papalodell

Hello Papa. Glad to learn of your quick response from FFG for your withdrawal into EB. Next Tues. and Wed. I have over $2000 on two deposits coming due, which I will be reinvesting. First week of Aug. I have almost $3000 maturing, which I'm taking out. I hope to be reporting similar success as yours. These maturing investments are my first with FFG, but I have felt good about this organization from the start and trust they will continue along honorable lines. I'll report on this next week. Best regards from Baby Huey.

papalodell :

Checked accounts today and all three are growing. I am liking this ite more and more. Hope this one will last for years as we all could recoup or losses just from this one. Love the interest being paid 7 days a week. I plan to reinvest a lot more once each program matures. Looking at other monitors I find only positive imput about this company. If we can identify a few good companies like this, we would have a base to operate from and not risk or hard earned capital trying different investments. Thank you all for your imput. We need each other to look for the good and bad in these investments. No telling how many bad investments we would make without the good imput from people like, Proof, Glo, Taz, Babyhuey and Alex. I thank you all.
God bless,
Papalodell

Hello, there, Papalodell. Thanks for your thoughtful comments; they are much appreciated. I agree with you totally on what you have said here. We can all help one another with our comments. Many hands together make the burden lighter. Stay well, and good luck.

SteveO :

Hi guys Try entering the site again. I also have been having trouble the last few days but today I logged in with no trouble. By the way thanks for your help babyhuey

Hello, SteveO. Thanks for your kind reply. I am writing this at 10:15am EDST. Just moments ago I logged on to the FFG site and accessed my a/c with no problem; did not have to go through the new security page that has been cropping up on several occasions this past week. It is good to learn that people are withdrawing their profits without delay or undue incident. This news reaffirms my faith in FFG as just about the best HYIP site around (along with SafeAtom), as I've stated previously. Good luck and best regards from Baby Huey.

Rustysouth :

Great info babyhuey, couldnt have said it better myself. Fantastic site here.
Rusty

Hi, Rusty. Thanks for your time in replying with positive comments. Much appreciated. Yes, I think FFG has a great site and seems to come across as an honorable and trustworthy organization. Hope they do well indefinitely for a long time. If you have noticed their statistics on the website, they have grown steadily and strong over the past two months that I have been involved with them. Long may they flourish! Stay well, continued good luck and best regards, Baby Huey.

Rustysouth :

Great info babyhuey, couldnt have said it better myself. Fantastic site here.
Rusty

Hi, Rusty. Thanks for your time in replying with positive comments. Much appreciated. Yes, I think FFG has a great site and seems to come across as an honorable and trustworthy organization. Hope they do well indefinitely for a long time. If you have noticed their statistics on the website, they have grown steadily and strong over the past two months that I have been involved with them. Long may they flourish! Stay well, continued good luck and best regards, Baby Huey.

TINAhyip :

HI Babyhuey,
for me FFG is also one of the best together with agi-club. I never tried Safeatom. How long are you in there? And what do u think about 4 FX Trader?

Hello to you, Tina. Thanks for responding to my previous reply to SteveO; glad to offer my two cents' worth! I've never heard of Agi-Club, but will check into it; thanks for mentioning it. SafeAtom is a top-notch outfit, in my opinion, as is FFG, without a doubt. You know, you can somewhat tell by the quality of the website what kind of outfit you will be dealing with. The outfits that people seem to have problems with have mediocre websites, as I see them. Don't you agree to some extent? I've been with SafeAtom for just over a month, with 6 deposits (more planned), all of them maturing in November. I've been with FFG (my first investment with a HYIP) since mid-May, with 3 deposits, and more planned. As far as 4FX Trader goes, I have examined the website a few times, but I am not impressed, nor do I like the policy of foregoing one's principal at maturity. After all, if you place funds on deposit into a savings a/c, when you close the a/c you do not forfeit your initial deposit; why should that be different here? So, I would not seriously consider investing with an outfit that has such a policy. What's your view on that? Good luck and best regards to you.

SteveO :

I have ben trying to log on with out any luck. I would like to get through as I have an account there. Can anyone help me out here? I also have sent admin a email so I'm hoping for a response . By the sound of things on this form this is a really good place to invest.

Hello, SteveO. Yes, FFG is not only a good place to invest, but one of the two best HYIP sites you will ever come across (the other being SafeAtom.com). I accessed FFG just a few minutes ago, at approx. 2am EDST, without a problem. Just enter http://www.ffg-traders.biz/ into your browser and go. If you wish, try Mozilla, Firefox or Opera as auxiliary browsers if you cannot get through with IE, though I've never had a problem. Try it out and keep us posted. Sharing feedback is for mutual benefit. Best of luck and best regards.

Good morning all. EDST now is 10:45am. A few minutes ago logged in with no problem; had to enter a turing number to gain access to the website. New security measures must be in place, which is good no doubt. FFG must have experienced another DDos attach last night, accounting for the site's downtime. I have a lot of faith in this program and have had good feelings about it ever since I first visited the site. Admin., keep up the good work. Best regards to all.

I'll add my two cents' worth to let all know that I have just accessed SafeAtom's site without a problem. It's possible it was down for a short time for maintenance. They do state on the home page that it is up over 98% of the time. Best regards.

dillacantik :

Hallo all, im newbie here. just wanna making sure my self in this HYIP

can i withdraw the current deposit after 150day? i mean that the profit that they give everyday in 150days not include the deposit right?

Hello, dilla. As I understand it, and I have 6 deposits with SafeAtom, at the 150th day, end of term, your original principal is included and made available to you. You can also reinvest all or in part, as you choose. Good luck and best regards.

xiris :

Hi @ all. I see good results from SafeAtom. And my question is:

if someone's a/c balance gets much bigger than his initial deposit by compounding plan, then he can withdraw it actually at one time?

anybody has compounding plan so far?

Hi, Xiris. Glad to see that you're invested in SafeAtom. I have 6 deposits with them, all full compounding. They will mature in November, so I have not yet experienced withdrawing any funds; however, it is my understanding that you can only withdraw funds prior to maturity if you have selected less than full compounding, as those partially compounded funds will be credited to your available balance each day. For full compounding, you have to wait until maturity, at which time both principal and interest will become available. Check the FAQs for details. Good luck with your investments, and best regards.

TH :

I, too, received no payment today after only 5 payments...

Perhaps admin has put a moratorium on all payments until the security/theft situation is resolved - but they should let us know if this is the case. I have received no response to my e-mail yet, but I only sent it earlier today.

Hi, TH. I too have a small deposit with CP which I opened almost a month ago to test the program. I have been credited with the interest each and every day, except July 2, today! I guess it may be the case that a moratorium, as you suggest, is in effect until the security problem is corrected. I hope that is the case as was planning later this month to place a substantial deposit with CP, but now I am becoming skeptical. Will keep this forum updated for sharing of this type of info is quite helpful and can be calming. Best regards from Baby Huey.

papalodell :

Babyhuey,
The browser I use the most is mozill a firefox. Have found over the years internet explore has issues with some sites. Also opera is good and does things better than both firefox and exlporer. Both that I mentioned are free downloads that can be found with a google search.
Papalodell

markP :

hi babyhuey,

just my 2 cents but i know some site you need to have an active deposit to change compounding. I know there is a site or two ive used in the past where during the deposit section there was no compounding available. However when i go into my deposits it shows compounding level and the ability to change. Obviously every site is different so this might not work for this site

markP :

hi babyhuey,

just my 2 cents but i know some site you need to have an active deposit to change compounding. I know there is a site or two ive used in the past where during the deposit section there was no compounding available. However when i go into my deposits it shows compounding level and the ability to change. Obviously every site is different so this might not work for this site

Thanks, MarkP, for your feedback. Much appreciated. I do have an active deposit, but when I access my a/c, nothing shows up to even acknowledge that I have an a/c; in fact, it states that I don't yet have an e-currency a/c, but my EBullion a/c is credited with the interest each day! I'm going to check this out further, sending another support query to CP. Best regards.

papalodell :

Babyhuey,
The browser I use the most is mozill a firefox. Have found over the years internet explore has issues with some sites. Also opera is good and does things better than both firefox and exlporer. Both that I mentioned are free downloads that can be found with a google search.
Papalodell

Thanks, Papa, for your reply and info. Much appreciated. Will research what you suggest. I'll let you know how I make out. Best regards.

glo :

HI nycv, Am in Florida, but FFG came up fine here at 8am! We have been with FFG now since March first and completed several nine week programs! Presently one of my referrals invested 1800 and is drawing out $351.90 interest weekly! They have been very timely with all withdrawals and in mid July shall invest more! This is a real money maker that I hope lasts for a LONG TIME! Great place to invest!

Hi, Glo. Glad to hear of your high praise for FFG. I, too, here in CT, have 3 deposits with them at present, with 2 of them maturing in mid-July. I will be reinvesting part of those funds with FFG, again. FFG's website is top-notch. Along with SafeAtom, their websites are the best of the best, and to me that speaks volumes about their integrity and professionalism in their respective fields. Continued success with your investments. Best regards.

papalodell :

Baby Huey,
Good morning. When I login to site I see account balance and at bottom of account page there are 3 choices. Off, Half and on. This is where you activate the interest selection. If you are not seeing this when you login you might try a different browser. Last you can try support. Hope this helps and good luck with this.
Papalodell

Thanks for the info, Papalodell. I don't know why a browser change should make a difference. I don't have this problem with any of the other HYIP sites I've looked at or in which I've invested. What browser do you use? I am considering more deposits with Constant, without compounding, so that the funds will be available immediately. I have one with them so far and the payment to my EB a/c is made daily, like clockwork. Thanks, again, for your reply. Much appreciated. Best regards.

papalodell :

Greetings All,
Made a big investment today to this site. When login the 2nd time saw interest posted already.
I hope that this turns out to be as good as we think. As always, never invest more than you can afford to lose. Let's think positive that this will be a win for evryone.
Papalodell

Hi, Papalodell. Thanks for your feedback. I am curious to know if, when you made your current investment, were you able to select compounding? As I've written previously, I was unable to find anything on the website that would give me the option to select compounding. My daily simple interest is credited directly to my EB a/c. Thanks for any info you can provide, as I am planning in the not too distant future to make a sizeable investment with CP, hopefully with compounding. Best regards.

proof :

Rustysouth :

I dont like it when programs change there investments. It doesnt ever seem to work out in the benefit of the investors. I hope I am not jumping the gun but this is my opionion.
Rusty

Hi Rusty, proof here, once the site is working well or up to speed then the new benefit should work inour favor based on the old verses the new , example under old put $1000 at 2%mon-fri(20 bus days) =$400 but you could not get back you dep as same is long term but the new is $1000 at 22.4% x5 days (30 day) =about $1762 including your dep which once the plan is consistent and not like gold empire you should work out nicely. so the site needs to be up and running which Bro we will all waite on. have a great one.
from proof

Rustysouth :

Hello,
I am still not able to access website has anybody else had any success?
Rusty

Rustysouth :

Hello,
I am still not able to access website has anybody else had any success?
Rusty

Hi, Rusty. I, too, have not been able to get back into he iMONET site. For a few days I did have access, but for the past 3 days or so I have not been able to reach the Home Page. That is one troublesome site and, to tell you the truth, their new rates don't really interest me that much; what good are they when the site is virtually unavailable. Compared to SafeAtom and FFG, iMONET is left in the dust! Best regards from Baby Huey.

proof :

Rustysouth :

I dont like it when programs change there investments. It doesnt ever seem to work out in the benefit of the investors. I hope I am not jumping the gun but this is my opionion.
Rusty

Hi Rusty, proof here, once the site is working well or up to speed then the new benefit should work inour favor based on the old verses the new , example under old put $1000 at 2%mon-fri(20 bus days) =$400 but you could not get back you dep as same is long term but the new is $1000 at 22.4% x5 days (30 day) =about $1762 including your dep which once the plan is consistent and not like gold empire you should work out nicely. so the site needs to be up and running which Bro we will all waite on. have a great one.
from proof

Hi, Proof. I read your comments to Rusty, concerning the new interest rates on iMONET. I think you've made some errors. As I see it, the rates they quote on their updated Home Page, which I've not been able to access again for the past few days, are as follows: 22.4% on a 5-day basis amounts to 4.48% daily; 24.6% equates to 4.92% daily for 5 days; and 26.4% equals a daily rate, for 5 days, of 5.28%. So, to use your example of $1000 for a business month of 20 days, at the Starter Rate of 22.4%, a $1M principal would yield $896, not $1762 as you have indicated. Also, if you take a look at the HYIP rating page, iMONET's new rates are clearly indicated as I have outlined here. Hope this helps. Best regards from Baby Huey.

proof :

Im doing fine Rusty, mighty fine, and this one is going very strong for me as every day i receive in my e-b and l/r 4% payment as i have more than $1000 in each. I highly recommend same as always the risk is your to take and money to make. check out same bro, check out same.

Hi, Proof. I'm just curious to know if the 4% you are receiving each day into your EB a/c is being compounded and, if it is, how did you succeed in securing compounding? I don't see a thing on the Constant website that allows one to select compounding and the rate. I do receive my 3% interest each day in my EB a/c, as do you, but no compounding. Never had the chance to select compounding. Thanks for any info you can share for the mutual benefit of all. Best regards, BabyHuey.

Alex S. (moderator) :

garyghouri,
I simply don't believe the "8weeks" post and not sure if there will be follow up about the second one, as user most likely solved the issue. My feeling is that there is NO issue, but simply security feature on the site, that is not handled properly on user's end.

I just tested what have been said about account access lock myself.
I made our own account locked by entering wrong password several times and went through procedure to restore the access and it worked fine.
There was security question prompt, there was email with account activation link, and there was new password received.
All worked automatically.
The only possible problem I can envision here, is that user's ISP may either place those emails to "trash/bulk" folders, or block it altogether, due to mistakes in their blocking software.
To avoid email problems, just add support's email to your list of contacts. Any decent spam filtering system, will first check user's list of addresses, before applying any other filtering.

P.S. No problems accessing the site here either. The only thing that not always loads AFTER login, is the "referral area" page, but that's really minor thing.

Thanks, Alex, for your fine report. Prior to logging in to this Discussion Group, I tried accessing FFG to check my account, and I was unable to do so; a message came up suggesting to check back in a few hours as the website is temporarily down due to problems, and a small blurb at the bottom, in small text, suggested to me that the site was under DDoS attack. Will post again, soon. Best regards.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Update from yesterday. Problem was caused by server with cable co. After several hours they admitt the problem is on their end and should resolve soon. Thank you for your help.
Papalodell

Good afternoon, and Happy Father's Day, too. Just to let you know that there is no problem for me to access SafeAtom; in fact, the site comes up instantly. Daily postings have no problem. Will be opening some new deposits this week. Will keep you posted. Best regards.

Hello, Mark P. Thanks for your comment on Day Trader Pros. I wasn't certain if the website indicated return of principal; I'm inclined to agree with you, and for that reason I will opt against investing with them. I believe principal should be returned. When you open a savings a/c in a bank, you always are entitled to your original principal along with any interest earned; it should be the same with any HYIP. So far, the best sites I've found, and investments made, are with FFG Traders and SafeAtom; both of them have top-notch sites and very user-friendly. It is best to do your due diligence at all times to separate the wheat from the chaff. Stay well and best regards.

SD :

Hi Proof & babyhuey, I am a relative newbie to hyip and was interested in your discussions on compounding . I became interested in Constantprofit as it it paid from 3% daily and for 7 days a week , returned the original deposit on maturity and Compounding was available. I was considering investing $100.00 for a test and decided to calculate what I would receive on maturity after 365 days. On simple interest It came to $1095, but when I calculated on 100% compounding I got an answer of over $4million !!! I even used another websites calculator with a similar result. As I said earlier, I am a relative newbie, and I wondered if I am misinterpreting or misunderstanding the way hyip's calculate compounding . Can you check my calculations or comment. Do you know if you can change the amount of compounding during the year, or if you can only choose the compounding % at the start ? Grateful for any comments or advice. regards SD

Good evening SD. I read your comments yesterday, but did not have time to reply. I recently made a 20USD deposit into Constant for a test run. Interest postings on a daily basis are seemingly consistent, none have been missed yet. However, I originally wanted 100% compounding for my deposit and nowhere in the process of signing up and making the deposit was there a choice available for compounding and/or at what rate, although on the site's Home Page it states at the bottom right "Compounding is available." I have sent emails, as well as submitting a Support Ticket, but to no avail. No replies have been forthcoming, although other participants in this forum have reported they receive replies from Admin. As far as compounding is concerned, I haven't calculated out what the profit would be based on 3 or 4 percent for a term of 365 days. Four million, as you have indicated, seems to be on the high side for a $100 principal. Now, I also have a small deposit with iMONET at 100% compounding, but I have not been able to access that site for over a week. FFG Trading has an excellent site, and the best calculator around of any HYIP that I have researched. Why not give that calculator a try, although their interest rates range from 2% daily through 19% weekly, depending on the value deposited and, of course, as the balance grows, the interest rate will rise at various levels; e.g. at $5000 rate goes to 19%, the highest rate FFG pays. Check the site out thoroughly, you won't be sorry. It's a great site. Please share some feedback with us. I'll try to calculate the figures you supplied and report back here shortly. Best regards, and good luck.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Has anyone had trouble accessing site. I keep getting error that browser has been reset, site might be unavailable, our to busy. Have tried access threw different browser and get same message. Thanks for any imput on this.
Papalodell

Good evening. Just to let you know, have no trouble accessing this site; just registered to place a deposit. Will test site with small amount, then follow up with something more substantial. Seems to be a top-notch site, not unlike FFG, which is my favorite to date. Keep us informed, will reciprocate. Stay well, and best regards.

Good morning, folks. Just an update from me on iMONET. Many of you have addressed the same problem of accessing the site. I have been trying all week, to no avail. I hope that iMONET is still afloat, but I'm left with the impression that they may be rapidly sinking, if that is not already the case. Glad my deposit, for starters, with them was only 20USD. I don't anticipate putting any more funds on deposit with them, even if they come back online. I do believe that FFG has the most reliable, professional, and user-friendly site of any HYIP. By the way, does anyone know if DAYTRADING PROS returns your principal. I haven't noticed anything in their FAQs or on any other page in the website indicating whether they return the principal. Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated. Best regards, and stay well.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Anyone having trouble accessing site? Keep getting error message that browser has been reset, our site might be unavailable, or busy and try again later. Have tried to access with different browser and get same message. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell. I access the FFG site everyday, sometimes two or three times, as I have a few deposits with them. I have absolutely no problem with the FFG site. I've said before in these forums that in my opinion, the FFG site is the best of any HYIP and the most professional and user-friendly. My deposits are fully compounded, so I have no experience yet with withdrawals, but based on what I've experienced so far, I don't anticipate any problems. Try accessing vis https, rather than http. See what happens. I've tried that with the iMONET site, but nothing works with that one. I believe iMONET is defunct. Glad I only had 20USD in that one! Good luck, and best regards.

papalodell :

Good morning,
Anyone having trouble accessing site? Keep getting error message that browser has been reset, our site might be unavailable, or busy and try again later. Have tried to access with different browser and get same message. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Papalodell

Hello, Papalodell. I access the FFG site everyday, sometimes two or three times, as I have a few deposits with them. I have absolutely no problem with the FFG site. I've said before in these forums that in my opinion, the FFG site is the best of any HYIP and the most professional and user-friendly. My deposits are fully compounded, so I have no experience yet with withdrawals, but based on what I've experienced so far, I don't anticipate any problems. Try accessing vis https, rather than http. See what happens. I've tried that with the iMONET site, but nothing works with that one. I believe iMONET is defunct. Glad I only had 20USD in that one! Good luck, and best regards.

Thanks, Proof, for your informative comments in replying. I will look for the format of which you write. This is very frustrating to me, as the ConstantProfit website is the worst one I've see among all the HYIPs I've accessed and, as I've stated in the past, the FFG site is the best, most professional and extremely user-friendly. They should all be like FFG. I'll post my results for all to see. Thanks, again. Best regards.

Good morning, folks. I just tried to log into iMONET, but to no avail. I agree with habibin's comment, alluding to Where have they gone? How long can a DDoS attach last? FFG states they had sustained one in March, I believe, but they seem to be rock steady. Never have a problem with accessing their site. I'm glad my investment in iMONET is very small, so there's is nothing much for me to lose, but it is disappointing. If the site's downtime is for legitimate reasons, the admin. should convey a boiler-plate message to all participants. I'll keep you posted as to anything I learn. Best regards.

proof :

Hi babyhuey, proof here , when you login you should see compounding mechanism at the bottom of home page because I saw same a couple hours ago with bar for off -50%-100% . hopes this helps.
NB they are paying and keeps very up to date with emails responses. Great going admin.

Hi, Proof. Thanks for your reply. I took another look at the home page after login, but could see nothing of which you write. On the site's homepage, it states that compounding is available; but nothing to that effect in any of the other pages, and I still have no answer to my email. What email addres do you use? Is it the one on the "contact" page where the picture of Tom Bogelund is? Thanks for your help! Best regards.

Hi, folks. I notice that many of us are all on the various forums, so we are all investing in the same programs. One question I have about the FFG website. I noticed just moments ago that the virual keyboard in not on the home page for entering passwords. It was there yesterday and past days, too. Does anyone have any info about this? Thanks for your feedback. Best regards.

Hello, again, folks. Just to let you know that I tried Solarinvest's suggestion to access iMONET, using https. Well, I succeeded in reaching the Home page, but could go no further; that was yesterday, Sunday. Later in the day, I tried again, and again this morning, and could not get back in. We just have to wait it out, I suppose. Good luck to all, and I'll post more feedback to update everyone about my experience with this. Best regards.

Hi, folks. With respect to ConstantProfit,I am curious to know how one secures compounding on the website. When I opened the a/ca few days ago, I did not see anything at all pertaining to selection of a compounding percentage. I am still waiting for a reply to an email inquiry sent, but was wondering if any of you experienced the same as what I've described. Regarding my previous concern about seeing my deposit on the website, I have already been credited twice with simple interest, directly to my e-bullion a/c; but this does not provide for compounding, yet on the home page, it states that compounding is available. Thanks for any and all feedback, which is much appreciated. Best regards!

Alex S. (moderator) :

That LibertyReserve deposits are often not showing up on the accounts of users, seems to be an often seen general problem, which most likely caused by the LR site rather than merchants's. Some sites are even posting notes that LR deposits may not show up and that users should submit tickets if that happens.

On padlocks and ssl questions, well, I am not an absolute expert on these, but I can say that as long as user's computer is not compromised by some malware, the data sent between computer and website is secure enough even without the SSL in most cases. The data sent and received, is a bunch of digits (while in transit), which user's browsers and website scripts decode to read and code to send. Now, the addition of extra encryption (the ssl), simply put, is the same process of coding and decoding, but there is some extra "braking" of the data going on, which "breakes" it into more complex "digital strings".

My take on the DDos - SSL and their "on and off" issues:
During DDoS attack, because it takes a lot more time to "read" ssl encrypted data (there is a lot more of it to decode), it will take a lot more time for DDoS protection systems to separate valid traffic on the site from that of the attacker (to be denied the access of). This is why, some websites may turn the ssl encryption off, or even not use it on the first place.

Hi, Alex. I just wanted to say "Thanks," for your comments re DDOS, SSL, etc. on the iMONET, as well as other sites. I will do some further checking, including trying to access iMONET via https, as Solarinvest has suggested. I'll update everyone with feedback, as we can all give aid and comfort to one another by sharing this info. Best regards, stay well, and once again, Thanks!

proof :

Hi babyhuey, proof here and they are back up now it seems and it was due to DDOS attacks.

Hi, Proof. Thanks for your comment about iMONET. I just tried again a few moments ago, approx. 5:1pm EDST, Sunday, and had no luck. However, I have noted Solarinvest's comment about using https to access, and I will give that a try, too. I'll give feedback about that, too. I appreciate your replies and am enjoying this cyberific discourse. Stay well!

Thanks, Proof, for your reply. I forgot to mention one other thing about the ConstantProfit website, and what I want to mention is also true of all the other sites I have visited, including ALCO, FFG, iMONET. I never see the usual closed padlock which would indicate a secure site. Do you know why this is so? How does one know the site is secure? I understand that if a site has DDOS protection on, it may negate the SSL protection; if this is so, how secure are our transactions, password, etc? Thanks for your feedback. If I can ever shed light on something for you, I will! Stay well and best regards.

Greetings, ladies and gents. I am relatively new to participating in these forums, so bear with me in the event I appear to be stumbling across these cyberfields. Early this morning (4:15am EDST) I opened a small a/c with ConstantProfit. Late this afternoon, I accessed the a/c and I do not see my deposit posted. Is this common? Is it due to the weekend, then perhaps any manual processes will be effected on Monday. I also have several deposits with FFG, and my deposits there are always posted within an hour or two. I sent an email to Constant's customer support. Do any of you have a track record with communicating with them? Thanks for any and all replies and with sharing info with me. Best regards and good luck to all in your HYIP endeavors.

Hello, folks. I'm new to participating in these HYIP forums, so forgive me if I appear to be stumbling across this cyberfield. I placed a small deposit with iMONET about 2 weeks ago. All seemed to be going well. I usually access my account during the wee hours, but for the past 3 days the site is inaccessible. Can anyone shed some light on this matter? Can this be due to a DDOS attack? Also, the usual closed padlock icon never appears on any of these HYIP sites. I also have deposits with FFG, and haven't had a problem accessing that site, but there is no padlock icon there either. I would appreciate some light on these matters. Thanks so much for your replies. Best regards.