lordxan :

Seems good but, as of late I'm not too keen on many HYIP programs, I kind of have a "shit" sifter system that seems to pick more good programs than bad ones....BUT I have NEVER seen any HYIP out last one of the largest SCAMS Minvestment, so till that day comes I trust NO HYIP program....But I think this one may be worth a test run!

WORD OF CAUTION: on this HYIP, they are located in Belize City. I have seen NO HYIP program that was not a SCAM that was from Belize, so a Min test is all I would try here.

Seems good but, as of late I'm not too keen on many HYIP programs, I kind of have a "shit" sifter system that seems to pick more good programs than bad ones....BUT I have NEVER seen any HYIP out last one of the largest SCAMS Minvestment, so till that day comes I trust NO HYIP program....But I think this one may be worth a test run!

Ok, how do they make money on paying out the profit first then the principal back afterwards. Is this like a reversal on the ponzi scam or what? Admin please explain how paying out the profit followed by the principal earns money? I ask this because if I want to make money I want to ensure who I give money to to earn more down the road from is also making money. I don't want to invest in a money loosing venture. Pleas reply with a reasonable explanation as to how Team5 actually earns money, I understand the whole payment system, just want to know that Team5 is making money too.

Thanks.

glo :

Hey Chris What they are trying to prosecute for is a Ponzi scheme which we all know EB is NOT!!! These persons are so unaware that they do NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PROGRAM AND A FUNDING SOURCE WHICH CHANGES REGULAR MONEY TO GOLD!!! HOW LAME IS THAT!! They are showing themselves as VERY INCOMPETENT AND WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING!! PLEASE ALL WHO HAS FUNDS IN EB WRITE TO BOTH:www.losangelesfederalattorneys.comU.S. Magistrate Judge Charles E. Eick, Dept. 20 AND losangeles.fbi.gov
IT IS OUR MONEY AND LET'S TAKE A STAND FOR OUR RIGHTS!!! FLOOD THEM WITH EMAILS!!!!!!!

If I were in EB I'd be doing just what glo suggests here. I'm on the outside of this one, but glo is 100% right, the seizure of EB funds is illegal on the part of the US govnt. Now I'm from canada but one thing in the legal system pertaining to thefts is COLOUR of right to which thew US Govnt has none, nore dose EB. The only thing they can legally seize is any commission profits, not YOUR money folks...Check into it for a Cdn I'm well versed in law and oddly well versed in US laws too, probabbly cause I know a number of US cop, just a guess though....

I think this one should be @ the top of the list for 2 reasons:

1. Reliability of pauouts and the site is Never down too lone, if ever and you can ask for your money back at any time; and

2. at 2% daily that an't bad at all

If you add both of the arguments up Safe-Atom is the #1 investment option at the moment. PS a small third point here is they do not invest in forex and if you google search their address they are in the city they say they are and it appears to be an actual office in a business district, vice Fundslife for example only showing in a farmers feild in Quebec...Don't know about any of you but I'll invest with Safe Atom as my #1 option at the moment...

PS ALEX, can you PLEASE add WOIP to the list, ont high returns but it IS relaiable, that I have done my homework on and I don't know about any one else but I'll take low returns and relability over High unrelable returnes that vanish into thin air in a few days/weeks mos....

Sorry all, this was an exclusive invite to ONLY proof and glo. Any way the door is closed now so I can't invite any one new now even if I tried...greatly sorry

PS GLO and PROOF,

You want a real Investment oppertunity send me an e-mail, I got one that is PROVEN reliable for well over a year. They are NOT a HYIP, but returns are about 2.6+ % daily....

here is my e-mail:

thenneberry@rogers.com

If you are interested let me know I think the door on this may close SOON>

Proof/Glo

This company id from Quebec. I NEVER deal with the french Provience. May I draw your attention to a paymnet processor from quebec called AlertPay, not verry reliable vice one out of Ontairo called SolidTrust Pay way more reliable. I use this as an example ony.

My other issue with these guys is if you do a map search on Google for their business address they are in a country side area about (from what I can tell) 15 KM (8 Mil) from a small town. this makes me go HUMMMM?????

Any way my two cents on the matter. I'll take a trip up there in late fall and let you all know how the Physical drop be works out.

to ALL members,

Check my post in 4FX Trader. These SCAMS will be short lived, that much I can tell you because I'll be the one to shut them down, wait and see 2009 will be a very bad year for these SCAM site. Added to this 98% of the HYIPS are in fact SCAMS/Ponzi or these half breeds that nycv referrs to, it's kind of common knowladge I thought?

Any way so 98% bad, the good news is the 2% that's still left are good and real. I'd suggest tht if you want to get a good balance and minimize the damage do this for now:

1. spread your $ around (after doing som due diligience)
2. do NOT invest in HYIPS that all invest in Forex, spread it around (due dilligence?) look other areas of income rev for these HYIPS
3. pull your investment and invest elswhere, keep spreading $ eventually wou will bo on the profit side but it takes as long as you are willing to risk $, take your time, be smart and grow slowly with ONLY what you acn afford to loose.

rumyn :

Hello everybody, I notice that no body here received anymore the profit from 4FX and (including me) but my friends who put a large amount there is receiving everyday. yet.

So I dont understand the reason that somebody yes and somebody not.

My last withdraw was 02/08 and ended. Well what can I do for this.

Not sure if you friend is telling the whole story. If you know him well enough check with his permission his account withdrawals. if you see for your self,that he is indeed getting paid. have hime contact 4FX as with his large sum of money he may be considered a VIP investor..have him ask what's up as they may be experiencing some cash flow issues at the moment (meaning simply if they are trading on the FX market they may have made a poor buy/sell) this would mean that their reserve funds are being used for two thins, 1. sustaining VIP payouts, and 2. loss investments (they will use a portion of the reserv funds to regain their losses and put back to the reserve funds. If this is the case this may be the ONLY reason Alex has not placed them in the SCAM department.

All this being said, I do NOT think any of the above is true. What in a 98% chance of being right, that I think is going on is that HYIP.com is getting referrals from new investors and they keep paying to this monitoring site and the monitoring site fee, therefore they are , from the perspective of the monitoring site paying. However they have f****ed off at the high port!

I say this from experience, look at some previous posts back when they changed their plans, some of us who have been in this "game" for a while seen this comming just before they changed their plans. when they chaned their plans we (or at least most of us) kenw it was done.

A shame as they were good, and the ROI good too. But all is NOT lost in the HYIP world, there are a few (VERY FEW) true investment oppertunities still hiding withing the SCAMS, the HYIP market is about 98% SCAMS. just be carefull and perform some due dilligence, that's 1/2 the battle solved... the other part will be comming in 2009 when I'm good and readdy (mostly financially speaking) I'll be set to launch someting new in terms of the monitoring aspect of HYIPS. I'll try, to ad a banner here and on a few of the other sites as it's not exactly a monitoring site per-say..if I can't do that then just keep key words in mind:

HYIP investigator,
Net Det

etc.

something in the investogative relm is what I'll be running with, the ONLY catch to what I'll be doing is it will by defacto be a paid membership, however I have plans now in the works to keep it LOW and eventually have a means to have the members be able to pay their membership and be in profit, kind of like a HYIP investors group with a whole lot of extra stuff. Again this will NOT be up and going till sometime in 2009 could be as late as MAR 09. lots of work to do on this but it will be well worth it for all involved, that much I can promise. I'll add contact info below, but it might get edited out.

I any one wants more info or thinks they have some services to help this venture, please e-mail me with the title venture 2009 at:

thenneberry@rogers.com

Not paid regularly, having same problem as TH. Hope this is just a system GLITCH! still waiting on a withdrawal request from yesterday at 1500 hrs my time and it now 0635 hrs my time on the next day and still NO payment. I sent in a support question on this the same time as my withdrawal request and still nothing back on that either...I'll keep all posted if this changes.....

So far so good here, BUT the BIG issue I have here is they seem VERY simmilar to Expert Traderd in terms of their web page and investments... Wait an see. Those of you who have been in here for a while know all about ET so I'll just let the people ask around. Again this could simply be a script thing only, but so far they are opperating VERY much like ET did so while I hope all is good here I'm still on guard to see what happens next??

Any one know any thing about theses guys? All looks real good from what I can tell, may do a test run here soon...

Proof your thoughts?

jackyjones37 :

HI Guys,
I was for a long time in holiday. When I came back I was happy to see this club is open for new deposits again! I never had a problem with them.

This is for Lordxan. I got a email. They will be open I guess for at least the next 2 weeks.
Maybe longer?! I think they are just closing while they are on a gold trading journey!

I hope I could help!

jackyjones37,

Yes you have, thank YOU!

Alex,

This is the same bunch of crroks, YOU should list them as a SCAM, PEROID! Until they are willing to man up and be responsible to their previous clients they stole money from then Mr MCKNIGHT is still a CROOK! If I rob a bank in a pair of dirty jeans at t-shitr, then go and buy a new high end business suit with that money, because I look like a proffessional, won't mean that I'm now an honest professional, I'm still a bank robbing crook. Thant's exactly what SASIN has done here with a new sit look. I don't care here on this one as proof of the tale is that they DID infact steal money therefore are SCAMERS, PEROID. LIST them in the scam alert NOW! I have had faith in this site but continuing on this path of supporting known crooks is just plain WRONG! well I have vented long enough, and made my point here, I'll just have to wait and see...

May be looking at this one too, looking good, any NEW comments from current investos here?

This one looks promising, Think I'll do a test run in a few weeks...

Hi all, any idea how long the window is to invest here? I just invested my LR balance so I'm waiting on a few investments to pay out over the next week. Do they open the investments every 90 days at the end of eache term? Any info on this would be great, I guess for now I'll have to hope the investment window is still open for me in a week?

PS: ALEX, how can we suggest a new company to be monitored? I have one that"s working slow but very steaddy and would like to suggest it get monitired here. Thanks!

Hi PROOF,

I was looking at this one for a test run too, so I't been good for you for a few weeks no? That's osem! I still think it's a bit risky, but I may giver a go over the next few week.

Keep us up to date on this one please,

Thanks,

Lordxan

Hi all,

Access to this site is still hot and cold for me, but last time that I was able to access it I noted that the Master Card/Debit Card option is gone, or at least I can't find it. Any way I was wondering about if they still have it or not and if anyone here has it?

Thanks all,

Cheers

PS PROOF check out WOIP, it's a slow steaddy but reliable return, give a small test but check my post on them, they in Canada and I'll be going up to meet them in the fall (since I live about 4 hours from them in Canada too). Any way their returns are based on 1% no matter the amount you deposit, but they offer up to 10K loans at 1.6% so they loan out your money and you get 1% they get 0.6%, kind of reasonable, they are like a mini CITI Financial or Wells Fargo on line. well later all!

This one seems good. It's a slow but steaddy return, and best of since I live in Canada, I'll be going to visit their office in Ottawa in the fall to ensure they are who they say they are. I'll post more here affter that. all and all this seems to be a good place to invest.

The site has NOT been accessable for two days now? Any one know anything????

Thanks,

Hi all,

For those of you who are invested with 4fxtrader via e-gold, I have sent a request to have the invested balance from e-gold converted over to LR. I explained that for those who invested with e-gold (which they decided to delete as a payment processor, Not the fault on the investor) we are now paying a high fee to convert the e-gold profits to LR, Punix or e-bullion, this would erase any an all profits earned.

4fxtrader acknowladged this issue and stated that they are woring on an option (solution) to this issue, which should be avaliable soon. So for all you who invested here with e-gold, I would reccommend leaving your balance alone and just let it grow for now as there may be a cheaper or less expensive conversion option comming over the next week or so.

Any who, just thought those of you who are using e-gold as a processor here may be interested in this info. Further to that, from what I'm seeing e-gold is not being accepted as much as in the past year so just something to keep in mind when you are looking for on-line investment options.

Later.

Site is gone now from what I can see, 404 error and no access permission message comes up. This is a BAD sign, usually means they packed up shop and S**med out of town!

Only some time will tell, after a week if still no reply you can bet they were a S**m.

Thanks PROOF, Alex and all! I very much like how HYIP.com members keep each other informed of the going on's with all these sites. These seems to be a few "potential good sites" out hter that are paying regularlly. But, I'm allways a bit cautious after last year's issues with Minvestment, Invest-manager, Cobex, OpenTrade, BRICS to name a few of the long term steaddy and regular paying sites in the past...A word of caution to the new HYIP investors this is kind of like gambling, there IS a strategy involved BUT most of the time you are playing VS the odds that the site will close up. take advice from those of us here that have learned the "tricks" which are simple:

1. like going to a casino only gamble what you can afford to loose;
2. spread that amount out over varrious "good" investment options;
3. get your principal basck ASAP and grow your profits from the new "extra" money, that you can afford to risk and be more aggressive with from there.

Thanks all,

Cheers!

So what's the deal? Yesterday I was going to make a test reun here but today the site is NOT accessable? anyone know something???

Thanks!

Paid 10.00 USD but had to delete my first W/D request at 8.00 and made two 4.00 W/D requests pluse one W/D request at 2.00. But end result is paid and withing 8 hours. Just wondering if there is a longer processing time for amounts of 5.00 or more????

Seems OK, but a google map search places this address in a residential area?? Not to say that if they are running this from their house thatthey are noy legit, just makes me a bit on the cautious side. Think a Min test spend is in order here!

So far so good, pays EVERY time! Seems reliable, may be soon time to a notch! GOOD ROI rate here too! take the small test spend up a notch or two!

PS stone, I agree with you, so far SP nothing BUT GREAT!

I find this site very much like Angle-Capital, low ROI but pays EVERY time! I'll tale a low ROI and paying over a High ROI that won't pay any day... Great work admin, please keep it up!

Great! ROI is low BUT PAYS EVERY time, I'll take a low ROI and paying over a high ROI and NOT paying ANY day. Great work admin, please keep it comming!

Good! Pays and seems to be reliable so far on a small test run. If test run works well, may look at a larger sepnd here too!

Well, so far so good. Getting a good return on a small test spend. No withdrawal requests yet, but if the test run works well, may look at a Larger spend here!

Well, Not too sure what to make of this:

I have over the last two week attempted to make a withdrawal one for 18.xx and one for 8.xx, both were NOT paid. I did however get a 4.xx request paid. So far NO response by e-mail support, and the US phone number is busey all the time.

Well, hope to have GOOD news about this in the comming days, in the mean time I'm posting this to keep everyone informed. This simply may be a tech issue or someting... I'm posting a vote here too ans a negative vote for this reason, but will change this if the situation changes,

Cheers!

Now these guys heve me VERY unsure, and here's why:

1. On the good sie they have a MC/Debit card, which I'm sure MC will NOT partner with a S**M group so I think iMONET.BIZ would have to prove thir legitimacy to MC before they would partner with them.

Now on the other hand, here is the BIG problem with these guys:

1. Belize, any one here been in the HYIP market long enough to recall Investment-Manager???? Here was a well fuled S**M that took lost of money from people, myself included! There was anoth Big HYIP that was from Belize but I can't recall who they were at the moment. Any who, it went with the wind too! Well, All I'm trying to point out here is that the track recoard from Belize and Panama is VERY POOR, so caution is advised when you see ANY HYIP from these countries. That being said, I will be flying here too in the Fall and you all will be informed of the results.

Well this is MY TWO CENTS on the matter I'll kep you all informed on things as it progresses....

Here is the kicker for me with these guys:

Panama City, Panama

Any one recall where Cobex and Opentrade were from? Can't quite remember which was from Panama but so far the track recoard with HYIPs from Panama have been very POOR, added to that I think Cobex was the one out of Panama because they are the ones that posted thir busines certificate on line... any way just a caution flag is here for me. Think I'll wait til the fall and fly down and visit these guys face to face before I send any coin thir way. JUST MY TWO CENTS!

This one seems very GOOD, think I'll jump in for a test on this one. I have a question fo any of you who may have thir debit card up and running, how is it working for you? More details on the MasterCard/Debit Card would be nice. If all is good with the card I'd say this investment is very stable as MasterCard would NOT get involved with a S**M... Any and all info on how the card is working for some one would be very helpful, Thanks!

Avgusto,

So since 18 Apr 08, how are things with this org? still paying and all? they seem good and I think I might give them a test at 100.00 but I would like an update on them if you could. Thanks!

I knew there was something about this site, that's why I have been waiting and watching. As for new HYIP investors I'd like to take the time to educate, NO suggest, a strategy that has been working for me as I have found some HYIP sites that are SEEMINGLY ok. By this I mean they are and do pay regularly, I have about ten that I'd go on a limb asn say are good to try, here is how I critique a HYIP site from the start:
1. I check all the ususl Site info;
2. I check the BBB info;
3. I send a support question (KEY), I then evaluate the answer the send, if the answer seems to be an auto or template answer, SYAY AWAY! If the answer addresses the question fully keep going
4. I then check the support site, If NO physical address, STA AWAY, if there is a physicaladdress and phone number Google the address, then call the support number and ask a question or two. I find the BEST question to ask is if a face to face meeting is possible, if they asy no, STAY AWAY, if they say yes or only for VIP investors keep going (understand if you have the money they will meet with you before you invest) Simply do a copy and paste of you e-gold, lib reserv ebullion (or what ever processor you are using) they will meet with you Before you invest a LARGE SUM.
KEY NOTE: BEFORE YOU INVEST A LARGE SUM, meet with them. I'd say if you are looking to invest any thing over 10K you should do a meet with any on line investment oppertunity.
5. I do a small test spend, as the balance reaches high enough to withdrawal do so a few time check how long it takes for them to pay you and do this for at least one month if all is good, then consider more mone in;
6. My last step is to check how long the company has been around, are they a registered business and are they registered to trade securities? if not STAY AWAY. Added to this I send regular support questions and CHECH here to see how others are being treatd, if a large group are having problems STAY AWAY!

At the end of all this you will be left with only about 3-5% of the know HYIPS that are good, the rest well they are S***s sooner or later they will go, this 3-5% ones could go too, but this process has worked well for me, trust me on this as I have learned the hard way with the likes of Minvestment, Cobex etc..
There are two here in HYIP.com that I can say with some confidence give a try those are:
1. 4fxtrader.com; and
2. daytradpros.org

and so far safeatom my be looking good too, think I'll give them a test run..

any-way that's my two cents, take it for what it's worth, but I'm now turning a profit after loosing 6-7K so form starting off my HYIP experience in the hole at 6-7k, I'm now + 2-3 K.

Taz :

Hi lordzan,

I naively invested fairly large 4-figure amount with VirginTradeWorld last week (May 22) and have not seen any returns posted back to me nor any response from the admins.

Any suggestions on how to "motivate" the admins is appreciated. They were responsive until they got my money...

Talkgold.com's forum for them shows bad comments as well.

Taz

Hey Taz

I'm shocked to hear this as they have been very reliable over the last few weeks (mind you they have had some technical issues, but they responded well and paid the owing amounts) they are paying regularly for me so far.

As for reaching them I would suggest sending an email by replying to one they sent you, that seems to work much better than going through the site support.

Let me know how things are now as this is now 3 Jun 08.

Cheers!

So what is going on?? I mean with this S word tyhing, I have not been posting or visiting HYIP.com much latley, has the SCAM word been banned? If so I'd say that's sensorship as the intent of sites like this is to bring info of the SCAM sites to light and well simply put, CALL a SPADE a APADE, and there is NO legal issues eithor to HYIP.com or the individual posting. Any way I'm more courious than any thing.. later folks!

Still reliable and keeps investors informed. I have a request for Alex to add another site to the HYIP.com list:

http://virgintradeworld.com/index.html

These guys are doing very well for me too, I'd like for the Admin of this site to add them. They have paid directly to my e-gold account every time daily. Further, the announce SCAMS from ecurrency exchange sites and they WILL do a personal meet for thir investors. That being said they WILL meet any investor not just VIP investors. This is a different response than usual for HYIPS. Any way I think it would be worth the admin's time to add these guys.

I'm hope this one works out. Seems OK so far but I'm only in the test stages at the moment. Come the fall/end Dec 08, I HOPE to have some VERY good news for you all. As for a sneek peek at what I'm talking about, simply put I'm going to be doing a lot of traveling to Visit some of theses and other HYIP site home offices. If all goes well I should be able to set up a kind of insurance/group investment thing based of the outcome of the trip. There WILL me a MAX that I'm willing to provide insurance on investment, my goal is to have 2500, so we can all invest with some pice of mind. Any way, that all depends on a number of thing including my findings...Stay tuned for more on this. Just for future reference I'll be updating how this process is going under the 4fxtrader topic, so if you are interested check there, if not ignore this post.

Thanks all and I HOPE to have some good news about this soon!

Huge SCAM! NOT paid since 3 May 08, see proof from account page note option to cancel, shows NOT paid to account since request date! SCAM! SCAM! SCAM!

Withdrawal request $ 3.16 [cancel] May-3-2008 03:55:16 PM
Test withdrawal 1

For this period: $ 3.16
Total: $ 3.16

Still NOT paid!

HYIP.COM should change status to NOT paying soonest before more people loose money!

Thanks!

Well still waiting on a withdrawal request here since 3 May 08. Not looking good here, kind of thinking SCAM here!

proof :

Hi Lordxan, thanks million for this tip and I shall try it out. I sent them three emails and the answers were detailed and in record time.

one of my questions to them was ? can I deposit with e-bullion and withdraw with e-gold or LR and their answer was Yes and that one is allowed multi-plans also. The plan looks real good, great going.

Yes, so far these guys have been the MOST reliable HYIP I have used yet. Also progressive too, ie, they recently added a customer support contact phone number and keep sending updates like if LR or e-gols ect are down etc... added to that they allow the investor an option to switch payment processors should such an event occurre. Still a bit cautious though, as Minvestment was up and running and paying for quite some time too, but, these guys are more personal in their contacts, ie not templated e-mails. Added to thay they have NEVER (so far) been past 6 hours for a pay out.

If you want an even more reliable source of money revenue please send me an e-mail @
thenneberry@rogers.com
I'll send you or any one else an info package for a Non HYIP investment that pays out over 2% daily over a 2 month term. Please just identify who you are and that you got this info from the HYIP.com site. I'm kindof picky who I send this info out to, as it's such a great investment oppertunity I want to ensure only SERIOUS investors who are not out to destroy the competition (this investment that I'm speaking of) are invited in to this.

Thanks,

Todd

Question for thise of you who invested here, all seems good but has anyone who has invested with this group, who may live in or near the area of thir head office been by to check it out. O ask because the street view in Google shows a Lions Tavern on the top floor and a Chineese resturan on the lower floor. That being said, the address is attached to a larger complex so it is quite possible that it's located in an area whick google is not showing.

OK, actually I have three qustions, the second is haow is the telephone support? do you get an naswer there?

And lastly, for thoise who invested with this group, how comfortable with them are you? Please feel free to explain.

Thanks to any and all who can provide more info on Solid-Trust.

Over and over, this one keeps PAYING! very fast on payouts too! in short, simply the BEST, and most RELIABLE HYIP yet!

Not Paid in a week or two now and site is not accessable! SACAM!

Bad sign, I phoned the support number, guess what? NOT IN SERVICE recording, and you can't leave a message because the support number is BOGUS! I'd stay away, and withdrawal you mone fast. But, the decision is yours, just thought one may want to know about the bogus number.

Why is my e-gold account status at FROZEN. It's been that way since I joined the HYIP.COM POOL. Is ther an e-gold upgrade needed? If so, how do I do this because I have gone into my e-gold account and ther is no option for this. PLEASE ADVISE/HELP.

Thank You.

7 days now too, NO payments, No reply! Michael McKNIGHT is a CROOK!

Alex S. (moderator) :

lordxan :

ALL SCAMS! all HYIPS are scams, if I'm wrong prove it , I have NOT seen one to date that is NOT a SCAM.

lordxan,
I cannot offer direct solid proof and I am not in position to take sides.
I neither agree, nor disagree with you, but perhaps I can offer some neutral, balanced reasoning, to look a bit deeper into this issue.

Basically, what you are stating, is the TECHNICAL reality in the HYIP world. That is - on all related to HYIP websites (general advertisement, forums, blogs, what have you...) all programs ARE indeed ending up in the "scam" folders, regardless of how long they managed to operate.

HYIP.COM is NOT an exception. If the program is no longer on the list of active programs, look for it in the "scam" section.

Basically, our message to program managers, is in line with the following:
"If you have enough "guts" to open up an investment program with high return promise, we will take you on board of an advanced, (practically) uncensored advertisement platform, backed up by thousands of investors, who are ready for associated risks. BUT, IF and WHEN, you fail to deliver, get ready for the "SCAM" label and there is NO other way out..."

With that said, here is a bit deeper look at things.

First of all, the fact is, there is a good number of currently active programs, which are operating for a way too long, for them to be mere "ponzi schemes". If some of them are, I am definitely against them, because that is illegal across the globe. However, technically speaking, admins of such program (in addition to jail time) deserve the credit for an exceptional marketing abilities. This is a hell of a task, to manage long living program, based on membership expansion only. You got strong competition from other investment programs, you got website maintenance costs, you got advertisement costs and to top that all up, you got the killer DDoS issues.

Secondly, let's consider/analyze a couple of examples:

Take a look at the discussion thread of now closed (that is, see the "scam" section) LGM Fund program. See the thread here
This program was operating for some 90+ days (if I'm not mistaken) and was delivering quite significant returns. As you can see, not much discussion was going on, because everything went smoothly. One day, there was an email from administration (posted in that thread), announcing program closure and detailed description of the reason about what had happened was provided. Something like this (decent explanation), does not happen too often, but having "first hand" experience in stocks trading, I personally feel that every word of that explanation makes perfect sense and that program's end is not a "scam", but "failure" for legitimate reasons. I haven't mentioned it earlier, but I actually felt compelled and wrote to admin after that email, suggesting to make a precedent and restart the program. Something like that, could have been (at least) an attempt to "dilute" the bad stigma of HYIP "endings", but he (understandably) felt that it is not worth the effort. What this could mean, is that many admins simply choosing to cut it short and "skip" even the explanation.

By the way, take a note that when everything goes "smoothly" we do not see too many posts or comments about programs in the media. We do see the "negativity blast" whenever there are troubles. This is also why, if we sum up everything published of relevance to HYIPs, we get a sense of general negativity. Think about it.

Another example is (...don't want to say "was", as of yet) GoldenPurse. For the straight 240 days (two hundred forty!!!) one could "get in and out" and within a couple of weeks get the profits, comparable to those, which one may (or may not) get after YEARS of participation in most "fully official" investment funds. There was big e-gold issue back in September, there were general ups and downs in the field, YET, GoldenPurse with it's extremely flexible withdrawal policy, managed it all, for THAT LONG.

To conclude, "the jury is out"...

Good Post, Fair points!

Tribby,

Warren Buffett has a book out on how to make money, besides a well rounded stock investment and other varriuos investments, he started with something like 5,000.00 USD to his name and now, he's worth how much? I have a point here about HYIP's, as this was where he started the 5,000.00 from. As fars as idiots betting it all, yes I do agree that one must have a back-up plan in place, but if you risk nothing, you gain nothing. The key is a reasonable risk vice an unreasonable risk, hence a back-up plan. Your advice is sound however, do not bet the farm unless you can walk in and physically ask some one face to face "what went Wrong?" That being said, there is no guarentee that the office will be there when you sho up to ask the question. While HYIP's were a solid place to start back when Mr. BUFFET made his millions, it's now a breeding ground fo SCAM artists. I would wadger to say only 1 in every 1000 are legit, so research is the key!

All that being said, here is some minvestment news:
try www.minvesttmnet.com
note the two tt's, the site loads and asks for account information updates, however, no other site links work, same old same old error there after. I'm giving till weeks end then there is a group that I know who have a lawer readdy to go for a class action and they have been in contact with (I think) the FBI Farud div. in any event I give one week because it looks like some technical issues are holding up the show on the site comming back on line. but, I'm only waiting 1 week.

So that's the news I have regarding minvestment for now, but I know some people may be thinking damage control, so I would like everyone to think about checking this link out:

http://www.pathway-2-prosperity.net?r=thenneberry

Yes, I would get a referral fee BUT, I want everyone to know this site is NOT in any of the HYIP monitors as they stricly do not believe in HYIP's, further to that the reason for their high profict is majority saheres in (i cant recall exactly) 5-8 CASINO's. We all know the house never looses. Your investment is piggy backed on what they have in place now. Further to that, I's a Canadian company and they use Solid Trust Pay, kind of like a pay pal type thing, but fees are charged like a bank, so no 3rd party % commission fees lost (e-gold, e-bullion etc,) Check it out, min investment is 100.00 USD. This is LEGAL in Canada and USA. They have been around for one year and keep theri investors up to date witn news of what's going on on the site. After som Tech support you do get access to a Tech support tele number and names people within the company, Remember the contact info only becomes ava, after you invest. WARNING, these guys are no BULL S**T, so don't waist their time or they will tell you and even send your money back and tell you DON't Come Back. So far though, they are dependable and reliable and don't act like a HYIP site at all.

benji :

Site loaded halfway? There were reports (MMG forum) that they acquired a new host and need a few working days to get back online. That other mentioned site is an obvious scam: one can see that info was taken a bit from here and a bit from Minvestment's site and a bit from who knows? There are also contradictory info.

You did did you, I don't think so, all I get is the usuall bad gate way. I think you may be wishing so much that your eyes are playing tricks on you. I don't mean to be crule here I'm just a realist. FACE FACTS, Minvest, and All HYIPS are so corrupt now they are all SCAMS. They might have been legit way back but now, just scammers, nothing more, think i'm wrong, PLEASE prove me wrong, but I don't think it's possible, Investment-Manager, A3Union, SASIN HYIP, Minvestment, Cobex, Open Trade... the list goes on and on.

ALL SCAMS! all HYIPS are scams, if I'm wrong prove it , I have NOT seen one to date that is NOT a SCAM.

mapabon :

SASINHYIP.IS A SCAM...THEY ARE NOT PAYING....6 DAYS PENDING WITHDRAWALS....THEY ARE LIKE OTHERS.....MINVESTMENT,,,OPEN TRADE....COBEX TRADE.....GOLDEN PURSE....DO NOT INVEST...SASINHYIP ARE SCAMMERS......

YUP! All HYIPS are scams. I have NOT seen one that is NOT a SCAM. any one have evidence to prove me wrong? PLEASE go ahaed and prove me wrong, but it is fact they are ALL SCAMS.

Kodos :

chineyman,

I have seen this faux pas, and I agree...In fact I took a high resolution digital photo of the scripting "mistake" off the screen of my laptop just for my records.
Yes, everybody - Minvestment is dead. Only to be reborn as gprshyip.com. No doubt about it. Now they should be blackened, exposed, and imprisoned for
fraud and theft. For God's sake - Nobody invest ANY monies with http://www.gprshyip.com. THEY ARE SCAMMERS!

YUP! I think that short outage about a week before was a prep for the Big and final push of SCAMMING us all. SCAMMERS! plain and simple!

That being said, I'm looking for some honest forex traders to establish an HONEST HYIP. any one want to get in on this and give people a REAL place to onvest in and my goal here is to CRIPPLR and DESTROY all these scams. any one want in? again, I need about four FX traders to get this thing rolling, and a few standard stock traders too. after that i have a good idea how to run it and promote it, I just need the traders, I have an Idea how to do it but, I can't trade and promote at the same time it's way too timeconsuming to do both. Added to this, be aware that if I do this any one who wants to get in on it and I will be setting up a head office with a REAL address, a customer service center contract to handle accounts and any call in issues. All persons involved in this site WILL be identified by position too, this IS THE ONLY WAY to run a LEGIT HYIP. Any large corporation (Wal-Mart, MacDonalds ect. all have their execuitives names and positions as public recoards. Added to that so too is the Business registration listed as public recoards, there for IT WILL BE posted on the WEB SITE TOO! so this BULL SHIT of privacy issues is just that BULL SHIT, unless you intend to scam people out of their money. So, any honest traders out ther want to giver a go??

Let me know via this blog and if it looks like we can do it, I'll see if Alex will get my e-mail to you and we can go from there.

So what do people thinh of this site, Minvestment????

www.gprshyip.com

I would love to hear from peple on this one?

No web access, No email access, and most importantly, NOT paying!!!!

Here is a scritp from another monitoring site, it's between a Minvestment rep and someone (not too sure who), I have another up date but my attachment won;t open, so I cna't post here, but it says Monday or Tuesday they should be up and running. Here is the firest transcritp I recieved from my contact at the other monitoring site:

Hi Todd,

Here is the script.

Best regards,

forum post

Mohit Mahtani: Hey Mitravia
Mohit Mahtani: hey Mitravia.. is everything okay?
Mitravita Mitravita: sure
Mitravita Mitravita: i was called stephen
Mohit Mahtani: what about Minvestment?
Mitravita Mitravita: he said please wait
Mohit Mahtani: How long?
Mitravita Mitravita: will moving server
Mohit Mahtani: How did you talk to Stephen?
Mitravita Mitravita: he only said 1 - 3 workdays
Mitravita Mitravita: at least on monday website will be back later
Mohit Mahtani: how did you speak with Stephen?
Mohit Mahtani: is it true?
Mitravita Mitravita: yes i call his mobile
Mitravita Mitravita: he was very busy
Mohit Mahtani: the whole world is panicing
Mitravita Mitravita: he want to apologize for this incovinience
Mitravita Mitravita: yes of course
Mitravita Mitravita: thousand email was send to me, like spam
Mohit Mahtani: i know
Mohit Mahtani: can i give you my cell phone number
Mitravita Mitravita: but stephen only me to call him
Mitravita Mitravita: he won't to disturb by anyone
Mohit Mahtani: is it going to come back?
Mohit Mahtani: How did you get Stephen Number?
Mitravita Mitravita: sure minvestment will bacak aproximately on next monday
Mohit Mahtani: are you sure is this the truth Mitavita?
Mitravita Mitravita: i ask him, because i'm so close with him

I know it's a bit choppy, but I think you can get the picture here. I got this Friday Night, and the second one came on Saturday and kind of says the same type of thing but with more info leading to Monday being up and running. Remember this is from another monitoring site, and the person who posted the info said contact him and he would FWD to any one who asks for it. He posted this on the 28/29 of Jan, so the time frame fits the info, and the fact that he sent an update without requesting it gives me some hope that he has an inside lead here. I hope this helps, and most importantly, that this transcript is accurate and true.

Well, so far so good it's on line and has not gone anywhere yet. only one day in so far in a 200 day term. interest has been added to balance and all. the real test is when my balance hits 1.00 and I make my first W/D. I'll keep you all posted on this test run. I think I'll make about three test W/D's then invest a bit more to see how that works.

I'll keep you all posted. From what I have learned about this Co. is that they had been operational before this under a different name FXTrader, but had their domain name bought before they could re-grgister it. All in all it has been running for 600 days, that's three times turnover on their 200 day term. I'm going to see if they have been monitored, at a different monitoring site, for a longer peroid than 45 days like here at Hyip.com

Alex,

Why are you so slient of late? And a goog question why have you not responded to my last comment?

Thanks

SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!!!!

This cmment is for Alex, or someone in HYIP.com. In the monitored feild in the Minvestment section it says:

Monitored: 265 days

Is this how long you have had the money invested? If so, this should put to rest the 150 day toppic, as by vertue of being monitored for 265 days with investment would say that HYIP.COM has turned over a 150 day term at least once.

Just something I have been wondering for a while now. If not how long has HYIP.COM had their money invested, and therfore, the next logical question is how do you arrive at the 265 days of monitoring. Is it how long they have paid the monitoring fee for?

Thanks, Just started wondering this a little while ago but never got around to asking it.

Minvestment site is down again, any one know about this? Herd that it was posted on a Yahoo blog that they would be back tomrrow, can naone confirm this?
Thanks,

NOT Good!
No Payments for 4 DAY NOW!
Site Down for 2 Days Now.
Thinking time to put this one in the SCAM PAGE too!

NOT Good, NO PAYMENTS TODAY!

I started with $1.00, so far so good 0.20 added to my e-gold account. I am a bit nervous though as they could be like alot of the other auto paument sites and go for a quick buck and then duck town. They are quite new so this is a REAL consearn for me, but I'll slowly grew my investment by rolling over the profits. In this wai sure not to loose. Actually I'll only loose 0.80, so it's a good risk!

So far so good here, seems to be paying and all. Support actually helps and gets in contact with you. Worth testing a bit more.

Paid again, and fast too! Next to minvestment, this is the BEST (actually 2nd best) HYIP out there.

tony :

I am beginning to see a trend with all these programs that proclaim to be good. They all pay well at the beginning and as you get comfortable to the point where you put more money in the program they then "develop problems" and you almost never break even. I am believing that they are all programmed to take our money. unitel claimed honesty etc. hope they live up to the name

I say the same thing, but the best thing I have found so far is SASIN Hyip. Responsive and short termed investments. Always upgrading the site and keeping the members informed. AND the best thing if you have a problem and post it here on HYIP.COM, the Admin M. McKNIGHT, witll defend the program/fix the problem, guy actually cares about how his HYIP is performing. Next to Minvestment the Best thing out there!

lordxan :

SCAN, SCAM, SCAM! No pay, same thing as CatHyip.com, lower ROI, and different lay out, but same issue, processes, but NEVER PAYS!

PS,
Alex, this should be listed on the SCAM pages Soonest!

SCAN, SCAM, SCAM! No pay, same thing as CatHyip.com, lower ROI, and different lay out, but same issue, processes, but NEVER PAYS!

I too was faked on this one, but it was because I did not use HYIP.com I used a different HYIP monito and paid for it. So what did I learn form this, USE HYIP.com and got to the Votes and Discussions page. After that send e-mail to the custoemr support FIRST, if NO reply, NO invest. Lastly, I learned do Min investment at first till you get a few payments to your payment processor be it EG, EB, LR...

PS Why is this one not listed in the SCAM page, Alex???

This is a huge SCAM!

cool74 :

I cannot access site, i get this message:

Database Error: Please make sure you have create the database, add user to that db and config your inc/settings.php file correctly
Check for :
1 DB name
2 DB user
3 DB pass
If you can not solve this problem by your self please contact neversay at Kingofdollars.com

I got the same thing too. I withdrew two paymnets total $8.00 to e-gold without a hitch, the last three payments of $4.00 each for a total of $12.00 has not been processed to date, three days and waitinh now for one of them. Now I get the:

Database Error: Please make sure you have create the database, add user to that db and config your inc/settings.php file correctly
Check for :
1 DB name
2 DB user
3 DB pass
If you can not solve this problem by your self please contact neversay at Kingofdollars.com

Any one else having this or other problems accessing the site?

You know, I wish they would use AlertPay or Solid Trust Pay. Both of these apyment processors are canadian companies, but boy onece you are up and running thery are very easy to use, transfer money and MUCH lower cost to the investor. Added to that you can transfer money from credit card and direct wired from bank account to bank account.

Just mu thoughts.

Hey, Everyone, check this link out, register and invest with some pice of mind with Minvestment just under $ 2000.00 worth. It's a site which insures HYIP investments, and registration is FREE! The only thing here is they insured Cobex so??? they may have spent out a bundle. Remember they only insure the deposit up to a certin $$$ amount.

http://coiii.net/index.php

Michael McKnight

I like what I'm seeing from your site! I'll be promoting you where and when I can, keep paying and keep defending your site. Shows that you may want to stay around a while, vice those HYIP scammer sites!
GOOD FOR YOU!
Please keep up the GREAT work, I hope you running a legit site helps put those scammer sites out of business,

Thank YOU!

Today, 26 Jan 08,

Any one else having problems accessing BRICs????

Has any one else had a problem logging on to MInvest 26 Jan 08???

Hey, Alex!

You should see about having these Crooks removed from the davertising areas on HYIP.COM, and put them into the Scam list STRAIGHT AWAY. I have not seen any pay uot from them nore have I heard of Anyone getting paid by them to date. Keep their money they gave to HYIP as they have stolen it form HYIP members and other investors anyway!

Same Here, SCAM Through and Throgh.

This program is one of the BEST! So far!

After som checking around, CatHyip.com is listed in the Black Book of do not invest with, This is from another monitorsite, they have been black listed for 171 days

FYI.

To All,

Check this link out:

http://www.ifsc.gov.bz/notices.html

Make your own mid up but be aware!

Andi,

I hate to bother you like this, but I'm a cop by trade an I'm trying to figure out what is going on here. my CatHyip.com name is thenneberry, what's your's. I ask this because I want to see if the payout from them is behind the ball or not. I have a guess that it is. but I'll have to have the name you use with them ti check it out. You can do the same with my user name too. Remember, pay out dates are about 12 hours, behind which can lead to about a whole day behind the posted payout day showing. Any way, I would be very interested in a post from you regarding this, Thank You.

Again, soor to keep bugging you on this, but it would be noce to know what is going on.
Thanks.

Andi :

precisely same with my case with ontime-paying.com, no batch and - sure - no payment. until today. Is it same scammer?

Andi,

Can you please be a bit more spesfic regarding "sure - no payment. until today." Are you saying that today, 26 Jan 08, you recieved a payment to your e-gold account?

Thank You.

sourdoughsmitty :

the following emails were recieved from cat hyip.
Hello philip smith.
01/23/08

$400.00 has been successfully sent to your e-gold account n/a.
Transaction batch is n/a.

Cat Hyip.com
http://cathyip.com

01/22/08
Hello philip smith.

$50.00 has been successfully sent to your e-gold account n/a.
Transaction batch is n/a.

this appears to annother scam outfit as there were no batch numbers with the emails all funds listed above were the result of rolling over initial investent i believe of 10.00 so far to date site is not paying!! BEWARE

Hey, did you get paid yet? If you do please post here so I know, as I have a feeling that most if not all the Top investors are fake names used to draw people in. I see that they have listed you as paid, but have you recieved any thing?
I think I might contact e-gold to see if they have had any payout activity reference this account. Let me know if you get any info on this and I'll do same.
Thanks!

Hey, user name opata, if you monitor any of these HYIP monitoring sites particulary this one please add a comment to this BLOG, reason is I need to know if you are for real or is theis company just adding fake names to make them look legit and are just trying to get extra money before they head for the hills.

opata, if you are out ther and exist please let us know,

Thank you.

Hey CatHyip Adin. I have requested a withdrawal, after less than 12 bussiness hours your system has processed the W/D but it has not arrived in my e-gold account yet. The amount should be $ 100.00 USD credited to the account named: thenneberry

Is ther a wait time for e-gold to process the money too??

Thank You,
Todd Henneberry

Good News all,

It would appear that whatever the issue with e-gold and Minvestment was is now resolved. I was able to make a deposit as per normal. My only question now is are those with e-gold accounts recieving their payments as per normal too?

Any one able to answer the latter plseas p[ost, I'd be most happy to know all payments are going ok too!

Has anyone with an e-gold account been paied today (24 Jan 08)?
The reason I ask is that I attempted to invest some money in to my MI account, but e-gold has a spend limit on their account at the moment. Can anyone with any kind of intell on this situation PLEASE post here so we all can be up to date and fully informed.

Thank You,

cbs :

http://209.249.221.28//

cbs,

Are you an affiliate or admin for minvestment? How did you come up with using the IP to access the web page you are a wizard!

Thanks,

Well, I have sent a reply message back to the Minvestment support center, it would appear that the e-mail system is still active, as my message was sent and recieved! That being said, it is NO assurance, one can leave a mail box fill up for quite some time before it gets shutdown. But is is at least a good signthat their system is not competly shut down. At least not yet!

MI Hope you come back soon!

Here is a big question for anyone who may know the answer:

I have read on some other HYIP montoring services the Minvestment is a SCAM and the they are not paying because e-gold has frozen MI's accounts?? Anyone know anything about this at all??

From what I can see it looks like they are being hacked on a fairly regular basis and It is becoming harder to access their webpage.

Any info on this would be very helpfull thanks,

Todd

My big question here is has the Admin mnade any posts yet?? I don't see them but, I do wear galsses from time to time!

glo,

Yes this helps very much thank you!

PS I couldn't get the reply button to work so I just sent a new post in.

Here is that other HYIP monitoring site that shows the lifetime of the HYIP investing sites. Alex/Admin please don't delete this link:

http://www.goldpoll.com/

I can't help but note that every one is fixed on the 150 day return rate, What I really want to know or her from someone doing is:

say I invest 5,000 at a 50/50% compounding rate or even 60/40% compounding rate, is any one doing this and withdrawing their daily returns on a regular or semiregular basis (once per week ect.)???

I'd be all ears to hear how that's going (are the returns accurate with the compounding caculator?) and for how long they have been doing it for?

Wow, Didn't think my last posting would generate as much discussion as it did, but good info none the less. I have checked into these guys a bit more and al and all seem to be quite legit. I too am very pleased to date with them. I just wanted to point out or remind for those who were aware, but Minvestment's Progressive compounding rate is to a max of 200K, after which it earns a flat rate, if I do my math correct:
200K @ 2.5% = 5,000 daily * 150 days = 750,000.00

Therefore the lady in Kaye4u's blog must have opened several accounts at a 10 - 20K range in progressive compounding to reach that pay out level.

As for not hearing about them, one thing I can say, is that I was onanother HYIP monitoring site which not only sites the number of days the HYIP has been monitored but the number of days the site has been in existance for (I do not know how accurate this is) but it had Min's existance at well over 1400 days and counting (I forget the site but I'll try to get it and poste it here). The rellivance of this information is if one crunches the numbers it comes pretty darn close to (but not exactly at) Min's 2000 start date.

Lastly, has minvestment's ADMIN posted her I don't recall seeing any thing from them?

My big question about this HYIP r any other HYIP, is simple:

Has any one invested a large sum of money (50K, 100K etc) into this or any other HYIP and is getting a good reliable ROI. Added to this, has any one gone to term with this or any other HYIP?

If any one can suggest a long lasting (good rep for a long time 3+ years) good ROI (1.5%+ daily or thereabouts) please let me know.

Thanks,

Has any one gon through the full 15 day term and been paied? Added to that, Has any one gone through the 15 day term and experienced no problems with the paymens?

The best I've founf so far are
P2P (Pathway-2-Prosperity) they claim not to be a HYIP but at 1.5% to 2.5% daily over a max of 60 days?
Minvestment
Your Trust
BRICS

I only deal with tose who make their business registration certificate Ava to the clients. These do, and so dose POLEX but their from Bleize, bat experience witn Invest-Manager so I'm waiting on questions I had for them.