A MESSAGE TO ALL NEW ADVERTISERS OF INVESTMENTS PROGRAMS:

In all fairness and in the best effort to communicate a VERY simple concept to Investment Program advertisers, I would like to notify them to NOT activate HYIP.COM monitoring if they have, or are planning to use the so called "services" of Money-News-Online.com.

The entire history of MNO becoming known (so to speak) consists of constant attacks with lies and unfounded accusations of other well known, respected and established resources, including HYIP.COM.
All I ask (and it will be enforced when needed) is that when advertisers are making a list of websites on which they wish to advertise, they should make ONE (!!!) choice, when it comes to HYIP.COM and Money-News-Online.com

I hope this simple request will be respected. The only goal HYIP.COM is looking forward to in the future, is to relieve itself of any future attacks coming from Money-News-Online, and there is no other way achieving this, but by eliminating the overlap of presented on two sites programs.

This, in fact, is EXACTLY the same concept, which Money-News-Online administrator Paul Abramson openly proposed on his blog, but which he is shamelessly failed to follow up on. I also personally sent him an email asking to warn those advertisers, who might be not aware about this "incompatibility issue", but he is NOT doing it. Instead, (and in line with his general practice of misrepresenting and twisting facts on almost anything he writes), he is using HYIP.COM's fair and IN GOOD FAITH warning communications to our current advertisers, as fuel for his fake "sensations".

The webmaster area section of HYIP.COM now has a very specific warning on this issue, which every NEW advertiser CANNOT MISS.
We will also continue doing our best to prevent the involvement of all current HYIP.COM advertisers by this money-greedy Money-News-Online admin

why are they incompatible? As a reader and user of both, I can't understand what the issue is.

hebman :

why are they incompatible? As a reader and user of both, I can't understand what the issue is.

I read the answer to your question in his first post. Why asking?
HYIP.COM is looking forward to in the future, is to relieve itself of any future attacks coming from Money-News-Online, and there is no other way achieving this, but by eliminating the overlap of presented on two sites programs.
If you ask me, this is pretty harsh measure but I did see MNO proposing same first and this is where "credit" on this problem should go (I read MNO too)
What I can't understand is why would MNO choose to pick on HYIP.com and at the same time lick a** of goldpoll, who is very biased by pitching his DDoS protection sales business to every single admin and rating them low or with problem, if they refuse to buy one.

BigCarlos,
This is an off topic message on my side, but I should point that you mentioned GoldPoll in every latest post you made today. If I may, I would not recommend you to continue that trend for the sake of your opinion being better perceived. It was mentioned on other topic, but history shows that expressing opinion in a "forced upon reader" way does not usually lead to consideration by other readers.

hebman,
Investors are actually encouraged to use multiple resources, including other monitors and other review-based websites, when making their investment decisions.
The message you are referring to is for investment program advertisers (admins), not for investors.
This NEW HYIP.COM listing rule applies to NEW program listing only and the reasons for this rule are stated.

OK, having come to the HYIP arena relatively recently and am trying to use as many monitors as possible. I am somewhat agog at thsi public spat between you two and am basically trying to decide whic of you to follow (as it is I am more inclined to HYIP.com as you picked up problem plans like GNI and Investjoy where Paul was promoting them) but still, if I may ask - is there any more background you're prepared to share?

hebman :

OK, having come to the HYIP arena relatively recently and am trying to use as many monitors as possible. I am somewhat agog at thsi public spat between you two and am basically trying to decide whic of you to follow (as it is I am more inclined to HYIP.com as you picked up problem plans like GNI and Investjoy where Paul was promoting them) but still, if I may ask - is there any more background you're prepared to share?

hebman, I regret that you see this as something "personal", which is what MNO is "preaching"(1), which (based on a way your asking) is what you are apparently falling for (2) and which is why if I were to re-start providing the "background" AGAIN, this would only contribute to thus never ending "spat"(3).
MNO problem and mentioning of "it" MUST leave HYIP.COM for good, the sooner the better for all and the ONLY way I see this happening is if there are NO overlapping programs on two sites in the future.

I also would kindly ask you to please not confuse readers about "which to follow".
As reminded in the post right above yours, this thread IS FOR ADVERTISERS ONLY. I am reminding users to NOT be choosing someONE. I AM, in fact, highly recommending everyone to ALWAYS gather multiple opinions, BEFORE making investment decisions for their own good and that this is a MUST.
There is no such thing as "ONE to follow" in this area, ok? Also, it is not quite settling with me why would you even compare the real "ONE" (MNO admin) to HYIP.COM - the community, on the first place.

Seems like we have no choice here huh? I always found competition was healthy ;)

And change is good sometimes ... let's talk about the effects it will generate.

As Alex says, it will create a Texas Style garded border line between those 2 giants. I mean if major programs like Geniusfunds, panamoney, nanomoneycorp and the likes can't advertise on both adress, well... hmmmm... thinking about it I don't really know consequences that can do h?h?h? What do you guys think?

For instance, it may give less visibility to an Investment Oppotunity but since it's going to be on one or the other... As long as people visit both...

And Finally if you allow me, I see a funny allusion to the cold war when Russia and the USA were the two big powers of the world, one controlling the orient and the other, the occident. Respectivly, we have a similar situation here : HYIP.com and Money-news-online.com are the two MVP in networking investors to HYIPs and their chosen promoted programs will have an influence.

Just giving my thoughts here, what do you think?

sunsurfer,
You are overly exaggerating with all these comparisons. You've got a very rich imagination (but that is of course a good personal quality :o)
I obviously consider HYIP.COM being important (I wouldn't stick to it, if facts show otherwise), but I insist that HYIP.COM should be perceived as only ONE COMPONENT (!!!) of a lot bigger NETWORK, which investors are encouraged to create for themselves.

If MNO thinks of himself as being a "giant", well... you've got to agree, this is not good at all.
Actually, now that you mentioned it, I recall some weird remarks that Abramson used to post about HYIP.COM and about me personally: "...mollusk", "small man", "little man"... So, combined with the "giant" perception, all these notions are very indicative of some serious "size issues" over there, wouldn't you think?
Jokes aside, MNO himself has mentioned many times that he is "just a blogger", which is exactly how it should be perceived, per the fact and per his own requests.

Anyway, just to remind once again,
This rule is enforced for new advertisers only (there is a big red button on this in webmaster area, sothey can't miss it) and I really hope that the matter goes into history so that everyone could move on.

Hahaha

Still...size is everything when it comes to capitalisation... Don't you agree Alex?

The bigger you are, the bigger your influence on others . Why? It's natural:
One is not Goliath by self-proclaiming it; he attains this notoriety because others are according it to him and his achievments. Why MNO and Hyip.com and GoldPoll are better established than the majority among our industry ?

Now Goliath was beaten with a little rock thrown into his face right? hehe :D ( Was it loyal from David though? poor Goliath... he sure learned how to throw rocks too afterwards... ) hahaha Now laughs apart...

Both of you guys ( MNO.com and HYIP.com ) will more and more have a different influence among investors in the futur if you continue with your new politic. That's what you want to achieve right?: separate your line of thought the clearest possible from MNO's. The thing is there will inevitably be situation where you'll both be on the same wave lenght. Why setting apart in any way? Why not say in chorus that this particualr HYIP is awesome ? It reminds me a politicien who fundamently agrees with the other government side on an issue but HAS to disagree to follow his own party line... this is just wrong don't you think?

OK I know I'm getting things in deep but we're talking about choosing the right HYIP here, which is fundamental in the small players business like me. I mean, us who do not generate any or little profits from reffering others like HYIP.com or MNO.com do. It's because of us you guys can get a nice BMW ;-) Not that I'm not getting one but you see my point. hehehe

To conclude, what strikes me now is to compare which one between you two will get the best program in your campain. Respectivly, whose most adverstised HYIP will eventually give the best results? Right now, I will track fxstar for MNO and Atoxfinance for HYIP.com. And by the way, I agree that right now, MNO tends to advertise more cheap ( not proven ) programs that you do on HYIP. I don't know if it's a concidence or awanted practice though...

Cheers up!

Frank

Alex (moderator) :

A MESSAGE TO ALL NEW ADVERTISERS OF INVESTMENTS PROGRAMS:

In all fairness and in the best effort to communicate a VERY simple concept to Investment Program advertisers, I would like to notify them to NOT activate HYIP.COM monitoring if they have, or are planning to use the so called "services" of Money-News-Online.com.

The entire history of MNO becoming known (so to speak) consists of constant attacks with lies and unfounded accusations of other well known, respected and established resources, including HYIP.COM.
All I ask (and it will be enforced when needed) is that when advertisers are making a list of websites on which they wish to advertise, they should make ONE (!!!) choice, when it comes to HYIP.COM and Money-News-Online.com

I hope this simple request will be respected. The only goal HYIP.COM is looking forward to in the future, is to relieve itself of any future attacks coming from Money-News-Online, and there is no other way achieving this, but by eliminating the overlap of presented on two sites programs.

This, in fact, is EXACTLY the same concept, which Money-News-Online administrator Paul Abramson openly proposed on his blog, but which he is shamelessly failed to follow up on. I also personally sent him an email asking to warn those advertisers, who might be not aware about this "incompatibility issue", but he is NOT doing it. Instead, (and in line with his general practice of misrepresenting and twisting facts on almost anything he writes), he is using HYIP.COM's fair and IN GOOD FAITH warning communications to our current advertisers, as fuel for his fake "sensations".

The webmaster area section of HYIP.COM now has a very specific warning on this issue, which every NEW advertiser CANNOT MISS.
We will also continue doing our best to prevent the involvement of all current HYIP.COM advertisers by this money-greedy Money-News-Online admin

Alex,
Quite frankly in the past I used and invested exclusively through. However, I now also use MNO because it became apparent HYIP.com was NOT up to date in many aspects. An excellent example currently is:
HILUXFUND which is NOT PAYING but is listed here as PAYING!
LISTED NUMBER THREE IN HIGH PROFIT
LISTED NUMBER EIGHT IN MOST SEARCHED!!
What is up with that!!

glo,
Investing "exclusively through" is the LAST THING you want to be doing. You MUST use multiple resources to arrive to your investment decisions.
If you know someone else using HYIP.COM exclusively, please let them know that they have got to STOP doing that and expand their NETWORK of resources. On MNO problem, consider all current alerts on HYIP.COM as an "added value" feature, where unlike for a simple CURRENT status, users are getting ADVANCED NOTICE, prior to programs getting closed, so that they get a chance to recover at least part of their (otherwise) losses. This is clearly developing pattern and, again, don't take my word for it, see that happening by yourself by checking prior alerts and taking a note of the future ones.

On the "up to date" issue, you are surprising me glo. Fist of all, HiluFund IS paying as of today, so are stating other NETWORK resources and there were NO problem reports up until TODAY. I do see the report posted on the forum and that is exactly how this works around here. Users post issues, we react. Now, you have to realize that there is a bunch of fake posts coming (both positive and negative), therefore NOT every single post is to be reacted to instantly, but verified first.
To give YOU an excellent example: If it was YOU (glo) who reported the issue, it would be considered as fully credible, simply because I know that you ARE a real member here and not a fake poster who just signed up. See the point?

wow this discussions is giving new investors like me something to really think about

Hahaha I just love our industry.

I'm going to come back here in one month to report what have happened with promoted programs on MNO.

Cheers guys|!

P.S.: And don't forget to send positive energy to our Canadian Hockey team tonight!

Frank-+

P.S.: I think you've been doing and still are really doing a great job Alex. Keep it up!

>>...I'm going to come back here in one month to report what have happened with promoted programs on MNO.
... as in "Before and After" series?
Thanks, but let's just leave the guy alone.

Received this solicitation today from email MNO has on his website as his, but he is claiming he didn't send it.
I sure hope so, but as so many of HYIPs that he is promoting are closing daily, this might be a trick he is doing after seeing other scam admins doing same.
Here it is (I removed account numbers):

Hello, this is Paul Abramson from Money-News-Online blog and I am opening my own private investment platform.

Best regards. Paul